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205 - The Transformers: The Movie (1986) PART2
(upbeat music) Welcome back to BS Reactor. This time the crew is continuing their chat about the animated 1980s movie, The Transformers, The Movie. Make sure to listen to the first part and the warmup, so this makes as much sense as possible. Just like last time the show is going to have profanity and spoilers, so tap stop before the music ends if you're not into that sort of thing. Also subscribe and tell a friend, you know you want to. And thanks for listening. We appreciate you. - Okay, anything else you wanna say about the context of this movie? What was the first time you saw this? 'Cause I didn't see it until way later. I was in my probably middle 18s. - Well, I mean, I didn't see it when it came out because it came out. - You would defend one. - It came out like a month and a half before I was born. - Oh, okay, yeah. - So I watched Transformers as a kid, maybe when I was five or six. - It was a syndication. - Well, like when we saw this at the family, not the family, what was called, like action replay or some kind of, some local video rental place. You know, I saw like, oh, there's a Transformers movie. That's exciting. I'd only seen bits and pieces of the first two seasons of G1 at that point and just got slaughtered. - Yeah, like most stuff, I watched this on USA Network 'cause when we first came out, they had like a lot of stuff for kids. The two seasons just come on, either before or after Dinosauceurs. ♪ Dinosa ♪ - There were all kinds of shows back then. - The '90s were absolutely chock full of the dumbest premises you can imagine. - Occasionally I'll be doing research for so, like, in little reference to show that I had never heard of and there's like 130 episodes. - Yeah, like, yeah. - I would tell you that Dinosauceurs sounds dumb as hell, but I also watched "Biker Mice" from Mars. - Right? - Dinosauceurs was awesome. It was basically Dinosauceurs. A lot of times, a lot of things were just trying to match what Transformers did. And literally, Dinosauceurs were two different races of dinosaurs that came from a distant planet that landed on Earth and they used two seasons called Devolve and they would turn into their Devolve forms. So, like, the leader of the good guys was named Alasaur. So, he devolved, he turned to Alasaurus. The other one was a T-Rex and he would de-learn T-Rex. I think that's the first time I saw a Raptor 'cause one of the main bad guys was a Raptor and he would devolve to a Raptor. Like, it was, you guys look it up, it was cool. So, I used to come on. Obviously, G.I. Joe came on USA Network, but that's a Raptor Soul. It's meant because it did, like, during the summer. Like, every now and then, it'll play it as, like, a four-part thing. - Do you guys remember, like, Brave Star? - Yeah. - Oh, boy. - Yeah. - The guy that wrote this-- - The one also did it. - The one also did it. - The one also did it. - Brave Star. - Oh. - Cowboy's in space. The guy that wrote this also did a series called Bionic 6 that I never heard of. - Oh, I think I heard that. - It's like 65 episodes in an extensive-- - It's totally really similar to Brave Star that my brain. It's, like, Captain Universe and the Warriors of the Future are some shit. - Oh, yeah. - I had the bench. - I had the DOS video game of that. - Oh, shit. He showed me a picture here, yeah. Dinosaurs. - Why does it look like a fucking Animorphs cover? - 'Cause it pretty much is what they do. Like, they were, they would come to town. They had, of course, everything had, like, teenage kids. They would get angry and then they'll fight each other and they're like, "Ugh," or fight each other. And then they'll devolve and, 'cause one of the girls was the Interopteryx. - I just love the show. - Yeah. It's amazing the difference, because, like, a lot of these things, I'm sure you got, like, an episode or two and have just existed as a fever dream in the back of your mind for, like, decades. But kids now, they can find whatever on Tubi. - Yeah. - And just watch all 65 episodes in order. - I was that way. I saw two episodes of the first drone of reboot and I didn't see it again for years. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like, did I imagine the computer game show? What the fun? - I was at my grandmother's house and she had cable, right? So I saw, like, two episodes of reboot and, like, Saturday morning one time. I was like, "What is the animated? What?" - You can do that. - This weird German million dollar CG show. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - I'm still waiting for a cat to play the movie. - That shit is getting a full remaster. - Is it? - From the original tapes. - That's amazing. - Right now. The group that's doing it had the crowd funds purchasing one of the machines to read those tapes from Germany because there aren't any more in North America. - I don't doubt that. One of my nieces, she was like, "I started watching Deep Space Nine, like Star Trek." - Oh boy. - And I was like, "Oh my God, that's great." She wanted to talk about it a whole bunch 'cause it's like, "Oh my God, you've seen Star Trek." None of my friends are watching this shit. And it was like, "So what season are you on?" She was like, "Oh no, I'm just watching it "on freebie or whatever." One of those, like, streaming channels. And it was like, "That's the worst way to watch these days." - More power to you, I guess. - She was super into it, but she's getting the episodes out of order and all that. So it was like, that's how we would have watched the show back then, but it's so weird for a Gen Z kid to be going through this. So I ended up giving her my password. So she got to watch the- - Don't say that. - I'm sorry. - To come for you. - I'll bleep that out. The place where you could stream a Star Trek or two. - Which is only one place. - Right, anyway. (laughs) - Oh no, I was like, really glad. 'Cause next time at the whatever holiday, I'll have something fun to talk about. - Nice. Man, I really wanna watch Captain Planet now. And Dinosaurs or something. - Captain Power was the- - Yeah, you said it, but a million- - Yeah. - In my bed, Captain Planet. - Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future. - It was a show that came on and you bought this laser gun to play along. And you would get score on the laser gun? - Yeah. - I know that because I found a YouTube of the thing, eventually, but- - No, that was- - Yeah, I was like a thousand. - That was just a little bit. - No. - My bed sheets were all Captain Power. - That's amazing. - Wow, okay, I just looked him up. Wow. (laughs) - Yeah. And again, I had the DOS PC game of this. I don't know where he came from. - Wow. - Anyway, Transformers. - Right, Transformers. - In the year? - Robots in disguise. - 2005. - Robots in disguise. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Let's get into the plot of this thing. In the UK release, there is a Star Wars crawl, but I didn't watch that version, so I don't know what that is. - Hey, what are you? - Apparently it wasn't as big in the UK and they didn't want to confuse people, so they had a Star Wars crawl. First scene, Unicron, a gigantic, testicle monster, is rolling up on a planet filled with robot aliens. - And then fucking eating them. - Yeah, so he starts sucking the entire planet at Orson Welles' space cloaca. - Yeah. - So everyone runs in fear. - It looks like a big, it looks like a big butthole. - Only a few ships get away. We're basically watching the end of it. - A bunch of them get pulled back in anyhow, yeah. - And then as he's eating it, there's like these corny chomp sound effects. - Chomp, chomp, chomp, like he's murdering an entire planet. - Nice. - Yes, it's true. - I don't think I can think of what I was watching this. This thing is bigger than a planet. You didn't see it coming? You didn't see the planet monster? - That is the question I have about a lot of stuff that happens to this planet. - How do you see the scaling on the animation cell before it approached was much smaller? (laughing) - Like, that's the issue I have a lot of the stuff that happens in this movie is do they not have, as advanced as people are, they can fly through space. - They're literal robots. - Yeah, they're robots, they can fly through space. They've gone through interstellar travel, but they don't have any early warning systems on anything. - No. - Why would they have that? - 99% of the issues in this movie could have been defeated by early warning systems. - I mean, you're also looking at like the septicons can't tell that there's huge fucking bases constantly launching shuttles on both moons. - Right? - 'Cause they're hiding. - I would try to look at that. - From their super high tech city planet. - Unless you're like, whatever Raven drone manages to like spy on them for some reason. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - After this whole planetary genocide and everyone screaming and escaping, you have the Transformers theme, which is the happiest, most like fuck yeah, song in the world. (mumbles) - Well, okay. We'll get to an excessively overdone number of crazy pump up feel good songs. - At the weirdest times. - There's a bunch of random combat music videos in this movie that serve to move the plot to the next beat. - So, Stan Bush did this at a couple other songs. - The best song ever. - Right. Aside from the rock music, most of it was done by events to Cola, who's mostly known for doing synth heavy rock music, was featured in Rocky. People were familiar with them. And the soundtrack actually sold pretty well. - I like it. - Like it was a soundtrack. - Right. - It does. - Yeah, if you're into heavy rock, this thing's amazing. - Did it go like double play in like the first week? It was released. - Yeah, it was featured in Rolling Stone. - Yeah. - The movie wasn't. (laughing) - I think this is not gonna start of making movies based off the album. I think this made people think, oh man, if we just make a really good album, we get on a movie. - When did Purple Rain come out? - 'Cause- (laughing) - Oh, Purple Rain came out in '85. - '85? - Before we move past the music, I want to point out that the Transformers theme song has like the most awkward possible meter jammed into a- - Oh yeah. - They really just knew a good flow about transformers, robots in disguise, transformers. More than meets the eyes. Like they really get a good- - A good flow against the power of the evil forces of the Decepticons, but that's just box text. - Well, it's just like, and it just, you can hear the music coming to an end of the lyrics and the lyrics don't stop. (laughing) Guys just still throwing down the exposition. - There we go, one take, good enough. - Offward itself. - Yeah. - It's not even like it was poorly done. He just, he had too much to say to fit it in that space. - It was like, it was coking going to do itself. - You have 28 seconds to do an intro. Only 28. - 28 seconds. - We're telling you to read this long ass line during it. - Yeah, 28 seconds. Unfortunately, we have 24 seconds of music. - You know they're just throwing in the box of one of the toys and like, go for it. - Describe this. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - So it's the year 2005. The Decepticons have conquered Cybertron. This is the voiceover that's happening. But on one of the moons, the auto plots are basically planning terrorism because the planet's been conquered, right? - Yeah, the terrorist. - The war is over. These are terrorists. - There's been a terrorist out there. - I mean, they're ruling the one with war. - They won the war. There's a whole planet of robots that seem to be at least going along with this. There's a legitimate government. Anyway, the auto bots are planning this mission. They discuss their entire plan in front of an open window and they're being spied on by Laserbeak, which is the robot bird. - Once again, he was like, he just snuck up on her. He just flew straight there and landed. There's no early warning system that-- - Not at all. - I mean, they're only-- - There is. The security officer is jazz. - Oh, it is. - Jazz is actively failing, right now. - Yes, okay. (laughing) - 'Cause he literally just lands on there. It's like they're right next to their enemies. - There's a human from the original series. - Spike. - But like he's grown up now 'cause it's 20 years later. - Spike, wiki. - Right? They don't mention Spock plug is dead, which was also a character series. You don't worry about that. - Don't need to. - The human on the series. He's an adult. He has a kid, no mention of the wife either. And he's like, okay, you're going to earth for this mission. Tell my son I miss him. You can communicate. - I was wondering that too. - His video calls. - No. - He's doing this constantly. - His son is literally-- - He was a human and he doesn't rate that. - Yeah. - His son is literally on a hard board that has like rockets on it, but yet they don't have telephones. - And it's like the humans are there as mascots. Like there's no function for human on the ship. - They're there because as an audience, we need to have some-- - Right. - But you tell them that we've been there. - Yeah. - 'Cause even when he's on the ship, he's in a suit to make some look like a transformer. - Well, he's kind of, aside from the plot moments where he has to step up and do whatever, it's usually to save himself. And even outside of those, he's just not useful. - No, not at all. Laser beak flies off to inform the rest of the Decepticons about the plan. And then Megatron sees him and is like, laser beak, you're so awesome. Unlike some fuckers. - You never fail me. - Even like these other subdivisions I got over there. - I was like throwing some random shade on his crew. And I'm just like, how does he keep people running? How do people keep following him? He spends a lot of time talking about how bad his people are. - Why are you shit talking to your crew? You just conquered a planet, right? Presumably with their help. - Soundwave, who is basically where laser beak lives. - Who's the one I'm trying to do a tape? - He's my favorite one. - Yeah, he-- - Soundwave is a tape deck who has smaller robots that turn into cassette tapes that live in his chest. - Right. And for the kids out there that don't know what that is, if you've heard of lo-fi, that's what the sound is. The shh. Yeah, that's what's going on there. - So-- (laughing) - As they say, he tends to get a booster. - Yeah, get a blaster. - Got a blaster, sorry. - So Soundwave basically turns himself into a VHS player and plays him back the plan, right? - And edited version. - Yeah. - He edited it. - He edited it. - As if the laser beaks like, we don't got time for this. - I know. - Laser beak edited it before he gave it to him. - He's got fucking da ved she resolve. - He's like, "Hey, that's a shit." - 'Cause he's like, "Yeah, there's stuff in there that they talk about. "You don't care about it." - I'm sure I see her have like an intro called like, "Duh duh duh duh duh duh." Laser beak production. - "Duh duh duh." Laser beak production. (laughing) And then like, 'cause he cuts stuff out just to make it trying to get the gist of what was going on. 'Cause there's stuff in there like, "Uh, he said this and this. "He says a lot of stuff in there too before it happened." - Autobot ship is returning to Earth and the Decepticons attack because they can catch up somehow. So, how they're all-- - Oh, oh. - Ironhide is Ironhide. - They kill five members of the cast. - Oh, yeah, oh yeah. - Ironhide is very fast. - Ironhide, who's all gung-ho about fighting Megatron. - Yeah. - It was like, "Hey, go back to Earth, we need some energon." You go, "Yeah, I'll do it. "You freaking Decepticons, watch out." 'Cause once you get to the energon, we're gonna whip yo asses. So, as soon as that happens. - Yeah, in the series, they get shot all the time. They get repaired. Like, it's not really a thing, but like, smoke comes out of their eyes and they fall down. I'm like, "They're obviously dead." These characters are dead. Like, none of them just die. Like, they have smoke come out of their eyes, but they only return different colors. Like, they lose all saturation when they die. Megatron is-- - We're not 100% sure if that's intentional. - Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, maybe. The funny part is, like, when they attack the ship, Megatron just like, opens it up with his hands. Most importantly, the ships that they can just open it up with their hands. - It's like a hand. And there's just a hole there. - Yeah. - As they're traveling through space. - No one gets sucked out. - No, it's fine, don't worry about it. - No, it's fine, don't worry about it. But literally, Megatron goes there. Like, it opens the inside of the thing with his hands. It opens up like, little, little, I'm here. And she becomes come pouring in. And everyone dies within, like, five seconds. Ironhide tries to do something like, "Don't wanna do something to him." Megatron just shoots him in his face. - And then Starscream is like, "Wow, that was easy." They take over the ship, they go back to Earth because they're gonna sneak attack them. And like, one of the Autobots gets dying breaths is, "No, don't do that." And Megatron shoots them in the face. - Just straight up shot in the face. - There you go. Kids that had the action figures for this were probably like, what? - My favorite just died like a little bitch, right? - So we get to zoom over to Earth? - On Earth? - Where Autobot City is, and we're hanging out with Daniel and Hot Rod. - Hot Rod, who are out joy riding in the countryside. - They're fishing. - There's a D on his jacket for Daniel, but I translated it out as douchebag. And it kind of-- - No, you remind me of, what's that? - You remind me of the sun from Chinese movie, with the Earth dying-- - The wandering Earth. - There you go. - Oh yeah, if you remind me of that asshole sun. - Exactly. - He was just like, I miss my dad, he's big. - I mean, your dad who's up trying to save a planet. Oh yeah, that guy's a dick. And Hot Rod's like, "Don't worry, we'll come back." - Don't worry. - We had like a really weirdly touchy thing, like obviously Hot Rod's grooming this kid. I don't know for what, but-- (laughing) - He wants him to see him turn the knobs. - So Hot Rod catches a fish. Daniel's like, "Well, let's fucking huge." But Hot Rod is 10 times bigger than Daniel, so it's like, "Oh, look at the fish." - Yeah, and Hot Rod's like, "Oh, that is a big one." I'm like, "How do you know what a big fish is, dude?" It looks like a sardine to you. - Then Danny gets a phone call, and pulls with the 80s that a cell phone would look like out of his pocket, and is like, "Hey, look, the chip's coming." So like-- - Which zoomed in on a place where they weren't at. - So they leave the reels on the shore, apparently, and then Danny jumps on his rocket skateboard, and almost instantly eats shit. Like he would have died. He runs directly into a rock. - Seriously, what are they doing? - See, there's others. - He gets-- - If Hot Rod had not have caught him, this would have been a very short movie from the human's perspective. - He literally got on it, went one, two, and was gonna run right into a rock, and then his escape hover-burgers flying off, and we don't ever see it land, so we know what he related. - Uh-huh. - Yeah, right. He was gonna die. - So Hot Rod is like, if you're gonna ride, right, and stuff's the boy inside of him. - Oh, yeah. - No seat belts. - Oh, of course not. - He does, he does. - He does, he does. - Yeah, exactly. And then they go to look out mountain? They go to a tourist telescope on top of mountain. What? - He goes, oh, you wanna see a piece of it? Why get a piece? We can get the whole thing. That sounds totally like some of a pedophile, we'll say it to a little kid. - Let's go to make out, I mean, look out mountain. - I know, right? - Yeah. - So Hot Rod goes up there in a hurry, crashes through a barricade, and one of the other Autobots, cop, just put up. - This kid is not responsible. - Cup? - It's cup? - I was like, cop the whole time. - Nope. - They make cup. - And then drifts to a stop. Mind you drifts to a stop on top of a cliff that is covered in metal. Then Danny runs over to the telescope and sees the ship coming in, but there's a hole inside and Danny sees and Hot Rod for that matter, sees the Decepticons, and they just open fire on the ship. - Yes, they start, they don't call, they don't say nothing to anyone else, like call it in. Like most people would do, they would call it in. - So the other Autobots are confused because Hot Rod, you know, destroyed property, and then is shooting down the approach of your ship. - Which it looks like he's just firing on other Autobots. - Yeah, like there's just a ship coming that's an Autobot shuttle, and he's just taking shots. - Yeah, the thing that confused me is the firepower is very variable in this movie. It's like Rod shoots down the ship. - Yeah. - Is that also an Autobot? - No. - The ship isn't? - Well at least the ship isn't. - The ship isn't. - Some ships, sorry, that one's not. - Right. - That's just the regular ship that was built by Autobots. - So the Decepticons are escaping. And then an Autobot, which is a telescope, I thought he'd be a gun, but no. - Oh, see a telescope. - I think it was a microscope. - I think it was a microscope. - He could have been, okay. - I think he could have been a microscope. - Called Perceptor, apparently it was a working microscope. - Yeah. - 'Cause he did not magnify that much, it was like 1.5X or something. - Because the reason I thought he was a microscope 'cause when Optimus is hurt, he turns to a microscope to look at Optimus to be like, "Oh yeah, he did." - Uh-huh, yeah. - He takes forever to tell the Autobots that like they're outnumbered or whatever. And Ultra Magnus is like, "Oh no shit." - Ultra Magnus is the local in charge at Autobots to the on earth. Well, Optimus Prime is busy running a moon base. - Voiced by Unsolved Mysteries, man. But we've only seen like five Decepticons so far. We're assuming there's more in the ship, but this is like, "Oh, we're being invaded by five people." Okay, cool. Um, so they very slowly formulate a plan and roll out. There's a fast-talking guy, the Micro Machines guy. He takes a bunch of time to communicate though. Like he's talking fast, but it takes him a while to get any idea out. - Yeah. - Which I thought was weird. - 'Cause it's saying a lot of words, just to say nothing. - And also there is RC, the only girl-themed robot in this series. - Ooh, they constantly cheat. Like she's a damsel in this breast. Even though she's not in distress at any time in the movie. - They're like grabbing her by the arm and leading her almost everywhere. - Especially Hot Rod. - And when Daniel needs someone to take care of him, RC becomes the mom for him. Like she's daycare. - RC is a female character in the '80s. - Yeah. Also, this entire series was created to make action figures. - Oh yeah. - They didn't make an action figure of RC. - Not for a long time. - It didn't exist. Like it doesn't now mind you, but like back in the '80s, not a thing. - Shoot, they didn't make RC for Black Widow. RC, they make action figure for Black Widow when the Avengers movies came out. - Yeah, I mean this- - That inspires me. - There's a female character in the new Transformers movie that is voiced by Scarlett Johansson, oddly enough, but like- - Wouldn't it make a thing of her? - Like introducing a female character, it just adds the same kind of question you got from like having Smurfette around. - Like why do they have genders, right? - Yeah. - Why? - Everyone else, this is like not a thing. Like you don't ask what gender Grimlock is because he's a dinosaur. - At least- - Because him Grimlock him, right? - At least- - I have a lot to say about Grimlock. - Oh yeah. - But was at least Smurfette made sense by she was a woman because Gargamel put her there. Enticed the other guys. - Yeah. - Otherwise, RC is stupid. And then I like how they told him to transform the city. They go and do it. One guy uses a thing where he pulls his hand in there and pulls it out and then turns, right? And then what RC does is the same thing, but she uses her thing that's totally different than what his is. - Yeah, it's like a smaller one somehow. - Yeah, like why would you have- - Why? - Why are they two different things? - I ended up looking up RC to see what else this character is in. - 'Cause there's a comic series- - She's a mother of like 1,000 reboots. Like she's a round. - Yeah, she's been other stuff and she's always like- - I shit you not, on the newer series, she is a trans character. - Oh really? - Yeah. - Which seems to oddly fit given the whole context of the thing, but they're robots. They don't really have them. - She was in a Transformers Rise of the Beast. - Yeah. - As a motorcycle, usually I've seen her as a motorcycle. - Yeah, at least she was in the second Transformers movie, Rise of the Beast. - Maybe, I kinda gave up on the Michael Bay movies. You made me watch like half a dozen of them at some point I feel like, but they just weren't my vibe. - Why, you didn't like the Autobot Peanut on somebody? Or a big- - Well not just that, it's like- - Or a big balls. - It's like Autobot balls or Ziploc balls. - No, it's like, there's a lie in my wife always gives me a shit for her. She was asking me, "You love robots, why are you into this?" It's like, yeah, they transform, but they don't transform emotionally. And that's what I go to see a movie for her. And like I said, she's giving me a shit for that line forever. Like everyone wears masks in the Bay movies. You can't tell anything that is going on. Eventually, Bumblebee came out, he has emotions. Like, it's about the human character in there. It's interesting, like it's compelling, but- - Is it? - I liked it. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - So they're like, okay, we're under attack. We'll have the base transform. But they don't really return fire a lot. Like there is a gigantic base covered with guns. Or at least gun-shaped objects. They are not returning fire that I would have expected. - No, they're not. - 'Cause like I was expecting the telescope or microscope to shoot back, 'cause it's kind of gun-shaped. - You'd think. - It can't, apparently. But like, no one else is shooting. - That's okay. Do you have a standard? We'll open the door for you. - Right. I think there's like one shot or two occasionally. But after Hot Rod just shot down an entire goddamn spaceship, maybe that's a thing that could come up. (laughs) - Everybody has guns. - Mm-hmm. So the city transforms. The Autobots hurry in. The insecticons, however, start eating their way into this bridge. And Hot Rod and Kup are driving towards there. And then bounce off the insecticons to get in. - Oh, they bounce off. They crush them. - They crush them. - Yeah. - Do they die? - They don't come back. - I think, yeah. - I saw them later on, 'cause they're on the ship going back. - Yeah, yeah. - The train or whatever they do this. - Uh-huh. - They're one of the ones that got thrown out the door in the space. - I think. - Those are the constituents of Devastator. - Oh, okay. - Constructicons. - The Autobots send a message to Optimus Prime where under attack, we need reinforcements from the other side of the galaxy. But whatever. - I mean, it's not like it's like Megatron's long to get there. - Right. And they're still not returning fire. There is a character named Blaster, which I would assume would be blasting things. But he's like Soundwave. He has tapes inside of him. (laughs) - And he's like, "I could do that." But he has more people in him, apparently. - Mm-hmm. - They break in and there's a fight thing, but they get away. And then there's this weird, like, one of those commercial breaks we were talking about where it just pauses and goes to the next scene. - That was like, "Oh." - So the next scene is they're trying to push this tank so they can return fire on the Decepticons. Devastator has gone from the Constructicons to this big monster golem thing that's trying to pound its way in. And they're pushing. I think the thing that fucks me up so much with this is Danny helps them push the tank. - Mm-hmm. - A human child. - Yes. Maybe it's like that last five pounds they couldn't move, but like, how much of this is just showmanship for the humans? - Yeah. - Like, come on. - Well, like, there's got to be an amount of, they really got to try now because if they let it back in, it's going to crush this child. - So finally, the reinforcements come after the city has been destroyed, basically. - And they delude us with dumbass handlebots out there. - Yeah. - All right, we're going to have to fight if you're going to talk down about the dino bots. - So the dino bots. - Yes, I will. - The dino bots absolutely fucked, right? - It's like if Cookie Monster had a flamethrower. - The dino bots are easily, it's just, it's real fun to, we'll get to some more of it, but the dino bots are just drastically more powerful than any other transformer by far. - And they instantly return fire, which I approve of. - Oh, no. Even in that there's a point later where they just collectively kick Unicron in the ass and buckle his fucking butt plates. - Uh-huh. - Where nothing else even scratches him. The fucking dino bots do not give a shit. The only reason the Autobots didn't win every war forever is that the dino bots only vaguely listen to primes. - Yeah. - Yes. - And they do whatever the fuck they want. - And don't like be an optimist. - Optimus Prime can be all like dino bots, go do the thing. - Yeah. - 'Cause like they show up and Devastator's been doing its thing, and they instantly knock this guy over. - Oh, no. - Oh yeah, in the battle. - No, they knock over. - They kick his ass to pieces. - They jump out. And they're like, "All right, dino bots, go get 'em." They're like, "All right, we'll go get 'em." And they jump out and they're like, "Yeah, dino bots want the challenge. Grimlock wants the challenge." As soon as he comes out, Grimlock gets taken and thrown to the floor. - I don't know if it's-- - Swoop gets thrown to the floor. - Swoop gets thrown to the floor. - Swoop gets thrown to the floor. - Swoop gets the props that are gone. - Yeah, but then Grimlock gets up and kicks them into constituent parts. - Yeah. - I was like, "Wow, that was hilarious." They're talking about that junk and he's got thrown around. I was like, "Can I use that?" - But they take out a couple people on the list. - Devastator. I don't think it's super clear. They have to get devastated, open the doors, no one else can do it, whatever. Devastator is by far the strongest Deceptica. - Yeah. - And after the initial, whatever the fuck, the dino bots just fucking dismantle him. They don't care. - Yeah. - They are beasts. - We'll get to some shit later. The only reason that other characters survive is that the dino bots don't know how to fly a ship. - In this series, they just find them in a cave. - Yeah. - Yeah. - They were just like, "Can they plug them in and instantly just attack everyone?" - I forgot. - It's a big deal. - I forgot how simple and quotations the dino bots are because literally one of them, one time, I mean, after everything goes off and they're trying to fly away, freakin' Grimlock comes up the cup like, "Please tell me about whatever they were talking about." - They always get after a cup about war stories. - But these sounds like freakin' landy from my cement. - Yeah. - They tell me about the rabbits. - The literal rabbits, the petrol rabbits. - Yeah, he's freaking landy from my cement. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's intentional. - Yeah, it is, yeah. - BS Reactor will be back next week to wrap up the review, so get excited. 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