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Hooray for us, I'm your host Dan Morris and with me we have Ian McParland. Yo, and Tim by Seagull. Howdy howdy howdy. Extra emphasis on the syllables of your name. By Seagull. I see call. Welcome welcome everybody. This is the crew here to do the breakdown the season one of Fallout. Obviously doing an entire show is going to be tough to do in like a relatively short amount of time on one podcast. So we're going to kind of hit under some bullet points of the series. We're going to do our spoiler review of like some of our favorite moments throughout the show. Some of the things we didn't really like so much some of our favorite characters and then we're going to wrap it up with our overall feelings and thoughts of the entire show. But to get us started, we're going to talk briefly about our history with the franchise of Fallout starting with you Ian. Well, I can tell you that I don't really have a history with Fallout. Not really. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Maybe a little bit. I played and started Fallout 4, played about five hours, got to a point where I died constantly and it couldn't be bothered at building a base and then bounced. So why did you want to get in and follow out the series? What was the draw there? Just look fucking good. That's a TV show. It looked like it was done well. It looked like it was the right sort of budget, the right sort of setting, the right sort of actresses and actors in it. I was just willing to set aside the actual game because I don't think it really matters for this, that I don't think you need any sort of idea about the game. Sometimes it might be better if you didn't. I mean, good answer, honestly. How about you, Tim? So my experience with Fallout is minimal best. So my experience is kind of similar to Ian's is that I played a few of the games here and there. In the last couple of weeks, I started playing Fallout 76 while because Amazon gave it to me for free. So I was like, why the hell not? So what was your draw then into the show? Much like Ian, honestly. So I'm actually, I love Walter Goggins. I think he's an amazing actor. And pretty much anytime I see Walter Goggins in a show, I'm all already kind of like, okay, this is going to be good. Because whatever he's in, he gives it his all. He plays a morally gray character so very well. And he bites into that character so good. And so when you see that, I just know it's going to be good. And so I had no idea who the ghoul was. I didn't, you know, anything along those lines. But to know that that was being played by Walter Goggins, for me, that was enough to get me into the show. And then to find also, that also has Kyle McLaughlin and who I also like as an actor. And so yeah, so those two reasons alone. And then I was pleasantly surprised with Ella Purnell. And I just thought she did really, really good in this series. Not to say any expertise here, but that makes me kind of like the most experienced person with the Fallout series, because I have played all of Fallout 3. But I haven't played it since it came out in 2007. So it's been a while. I did play the game from start to finish. But I don't think I 100% of it by any means. And I never played any of the DLCs. And I did play, I got Fallout 4 when it came out. But it was one of those times where I bought like three games at once. So I kind of like dip my toe into multiple games at the same time. And I dropped off a Fallout 4 pretty fast. So not a die art fan by any means. I did play a little bit of New Vegas, but not much. And I know it's a very, very heavily loved part of the series. A lot of people claim that New Vegas is the best of the franchise. But that is, you know, on you as a player and what you prefer. But I will acknowledge, I know this, that it's among like most fans prefer New Vegas over all the other ones. And there's a lot of New Vegas stuff going on in this game or this show. And again, I'm going to say right here, right now, I'm no Fallout expert by any means. None of us are. So absolutely no. I will try my best to ground it. This discussion in the gamer perspective as the one who's played the most. But ultimately, this episode is going to be purely just fans of television watching a show. So let's move on to our spoiler review. Being that we're covering the entire season and one go here, I'm not going to spend too long focusing on too much of the story because we'll be here forever. It takes us an hour to discuss one episode of any given show. So I don't want to do an eight hour podcast. So we're going to kind of just skim over some things. I want to get us started with a few certain points. So specifically mentioning that the show is eight episodes, each one was about an hour each. So it's approximately eight hours for the entire show. And it does tell an original story within the Fallout universe, which has been confirmed to be canon by Bethesda. So it does relate to the games within the overall universe. Yeah, it's just weird to have canon in such a big RPG universe when there's multiple endings to every game. But if that's what they're saying, then that's what they're doing. Well, to their credit, I will say this, I know we already all have pretty positive experiences with this show. And to make the show canon, I think speaks volumes because it is a video game property. And the fact that it actually ties into the overarching narrative builds upon that in such a way that other shows haven't or haven't been able to do. Because we have the last of us that just came out last year and everybody sings high praises of that. But that's a retelling of the existing story. And it differs too much. And you can't say it's canon because then it rewrites history, essentially. And then you've got the Halo show, which it's gotten better, but it's also it's its own story. It's its own narrative. It has nothing to do with the games really. You can't call it canon in so much of a way, because it's all it's like an all history, all timeline kind of thing. So to follow its credit, it works really well in its figure. And it opens up a lot of opportunities for where they can go with the show, as well as the video games, because then they could kind of like time into each other in fun ways. Code, if we're going to wait 10 years for the next fall, well, yeah, it was going to be a while, because as far as we know, the next fall out game isn't going to be until after Elder Schuels six, which we're not going to see Elder Schuels six for at least, I think, another three or four years at best. Yeah, let's start off this discussion with like the characters, because I think the characters are some of the most important parts of the show, because like you said, the casting was really good. We have Ella Purnell, Purnell, who played Lucy McLean. She's kind of like our pivotal, pivotal vault-dweller character, much like you would play in the games. You usually experience the game through the eyes of a vault-tweller coming out of the vault for the first time. So she's closest to the player character in representation. And then we have Maximus, who's part of the Brotherhood of Steel. He's played by Aaron Mowin. I said Mowin or Morton. I might have had a typo. Mowin. Okay, it is Aaron Mowin. So he's a member of the Brotherhood of Steel, which is another big faction within the gaming game's universe. So with that's another perspective on the Wasteland. And then we have the Ghoul, which I didn't know what to expect of the Ghoul from the trailers, because I know they're a part of the games. I know they're there. But holy crap, was he such an important character in the overall narrative? And it was so good. And like you said, Walter Goggins was such a great, just a great actor to play this character. That makes me so good. Like, Walter Goggins is so good in pretty much everything. Like you said before, Tim. I loved him in Justified. Boy Crowder is one of my favorite characters of all time. But in this, even from the word go, his introduction into the series, but not the pre-Gool part of the Ghoul part of the Ghoul part of the Ghoul. He's in a grave. He's got a drip of some sort of stuff that keeps him sane. These guys come around and try and get him to work for him. And he just, like a boss steps out of a coffin and picks up a chicken just because and, you know, beats the shit out of them, kills two of them, maybe kills the third one. I don't, I don't probably, but I'm choosing to the my head can and he's not dead because that's Boba from Forrest Gump. And I love whoever from Forrest Gump. I was confused. I was like, what is bubbly in your notes? I'm like, what am I looking at? Yeah, ball, tramp, ball, gold, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp, sandwich. I loved his introduction. I was saying because as a fucking badass with a with charisma, he's yeah, it's great, which is great. And who else could steal the show from Walter Gagnans? But Dogmeat, who I think was amazing, amazing part of the show. I was really glad that they included that because it's like, he's a dog from the game. You have a dog in the games? You have a dog in the show? And of course, Brandi's big concern was they better not kill that fucking dog. And I'm like, I don't think they will because it's like he's a big part of Fallout 4. I think he's going to be a big part of the show. We'll get to that. They didn't kill Dogmeat. They killed Dogmeat, but they heard him. I wasn't happy with that. Anyway, it's other important characters. Like you mentioned Kyle McLachlan's character Hank McLean. He's of course really well known for his role on Twin Peaks. I think he was the bad guy in the Flintstones movie. Am I remembering that? I think so. I think he's the bad guy in the Flintstones movie. That was right off of Twin Peaks. He did that. He was also the captain and how I met your mother. He was the captain. I love that guy. As soon as I saw that he was cast from like, perfect. The lifeless. Yes. That's right. That's right. So overall, we had a really great cast. And then to round that out too with Moldaver, I saw Rita Chodhury. I thought she was really good in the show too. Lots of good people. Lots of great acting. We'll get even more into it. Yeah, we've got a few guest stars that I want to shout out as well. Yeah, the cameos were on point in this. Yeah. Nice. All right. So obviously, if you are watching this, we're assuming that you've watched the show and you're coming here for the sound of our sweet, sweet voices and to agree with us vigorously with all of our opinions. The beginning of the show gives us the introduction to our three primary characters. We get the introduction to Lucy's character, who's the vault dweller. She's getting married off to join forces with another vault. Then you've got Maximus, who we learn as a brotherhood of steel member, and that essentially he feels indebted to the brotherhood because they saved him as a young child from an explosion where he pulled a Harrison Ford in a fridge. I did laugh at that when he stepped out of the fridge. Yeah. Do we know? I don't think it was. I don't think that was nuclear. It might not. I could be just filling in the gaps of my brain thinking. Yeah, but you see so many crawl out of a fridge. You're automatically going to go to Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Indy, you know, and the bodies all were like sizzling and vaporized. But like, I don't know, like if it if he was that close to the start of the explosion of a nuclear vacuum bomb, even on a fridge, but a fridge. And he survived. Just again, I just don't because it was because that would happened what 10, 15 years beforehand. No one would be able to go into it. I know everything is radioactive. Yeah, right. Everything is levels in that. Maybe it's just Todd Howard's way of being like, I want an Indiana Jones reference in the show. Maybe, maybe, maybe. All right. Let's plug them games coming. So the end of that episode, too, was what you were talking about, Ian, is the introduction to the ghoul, which is like you said, it was a really badass introduction to have him come out of that coffin. And he just rolls those guys just like a boss. I love that establishment of the character of his like, none fucks given. I believe we get a little bit. Oh, yeah, the show opens with him in the past. So we see Walter Goggins playing his original human version of his character, who was a big film star during like the 1950s, if that's the proper timeline here. Yeah, I do in westerns. Yeah. Cooper Howard. He was the actor Cooper Howard in the past. Yeah, I didn't put that together. So makes sense. So there's obviously a massive transition in his character from him in the past, who now he's a ghoul 200 years later. And he just he lives his own life as a bounty hunter, does whatever it takes. And yeah, it's just a great, great introduction to that character. Not to mention the introduction to like Lucy's character in that beginning with the like Okey Dokey. Yeah, what do we think of Lucy's character in that first episode? It made me laugh because watching her, you know, she's getting ready for her marriage and all these things. And and she's talking all of a sudden she's talking with Chet and Chet killed me because I was on the I'm finding out that wait a minute, their cousins, and she's like, well, yeah, fooling around with your cousin is fine until you're ready. Like, I love how casual that conversation is right. I was like, pump the brakes here, kids. Yeah, they were doing they were doing some pumping of the breaks. But yeah, and she was just like, yeah, it's fine, you know, until you're ready to get married, you have to leave those things behind. We have rules for a reason. Right. So yeah, that that introduction just kind of kind of cracked me up where she kind of seemed a little bit her character was just kind of the happy go lucky aloof just, you know, ta, ta, ta, ta, life is grand. Look how great it is. You know, I banged my cousin, but now I'm getting married and moving on, so. Let me think of the I've seen articles or posts about people saying like they can break down the stats of the characters from the video games. And I think one of them was saying that her intelligence was really low, but her luck is really high kind of thing. And charisma must be high as well. Yeah, like high charisma, high luck, but low intelligence skills, good skills, good skills, yeah, too dressed in throughout that episode to it had me wondering, I'm like, okay, in all the follow up games, there's always something wrong with the fault that pushes the player out of the vault. So I'm like, what's it gonna be in this? Wasn't expecting the the raider murder fest and like her just like, let's have sex. Let's go. Okie dokie, you know, right? Okie dokie. The attitude towards sex in this show, I thought was pretty funny. It's like it's its own satire. Oh, yeah. Puritanical in one sense, but, you know, not in in in then a whole nother like it was like it was like a it was like a campy view of 1950s purity. And that kind of cracks me out. I was like, well, I can't do that anymore. I'm going to get married, but I could pull around my cousin until that and, you know, all these different things. Yeah. And even later when she's talking with Maximus, you know, just just flippantly, because they're they're in quarantine, they're waiting, you know. Yeah, she was you want to have sex? I'm sorry, what? It's just it's only so much you can do about though, I guess. I mean, it looked like a decent like community, but there's there's only certain amount of people. There's there's not a lot to do apart from work, I guess. So why not? No, your options would be thusly limited, I'm sure to play monopoly for the 500th time or I will say that like the introduction for Maximus was a very, I would say, soft landing for me because I didn't think much of him or his character in that beginning. And he definitely grew on me throughout the show. Yeah. He's a very interesting character to say the least in the like the kind of like the development that he goes through over the show. But that first episode was like, why are we paying attention to this guy at first? Yeah, because in the you're right, because in the very beginning, he's so over locable. He's just there's not much to him or about him where it drew my attention or made me want to stay focused on him as to why I should be paying attention to him. And honestly, I thought the story was going to be more about Dane than it was going to be about Maximus. I thought it was going to be, you know, leading up to that up until that whole that whole shift there. I thought that they were just introducing Maximus to introduce Dane. I thought that's the way this was going. I my shift on him changed over by the course of the episode. And actually, by the end of the series, I find myself with Maximus feeling sorry for the kid because that kid's head is just a, you know, it's a bag of cats. I mean, that kid's heads all over the place. He doesn't know what to think, where to go, who's, you know, who to be with, who to, you know, give his loyalty to his face gets smashed a lot too. So it does. Yeah, the money maker takes a few hits on the most of multiple concussions. At least. I think I think Maximus is my least favorite out of the core people. And I'm including Norm in this as well. Like Maximus just, just a bit of a dick. And he's been a bit of a dick for the whole thing. I mean, good characters can still be dicks. Don't get me wrong, but he just is something about him, which can really hit for me in some places. Oh, yeah, legit. He's a little weasily at times, you know, and a little underhanded and a bit spineless in a few spots. I agree with all of that. And he does get some redemptions a few times here and there, but then he kind of back pedals and then redeems and then back pedals a little bit. So it's like, yeah. All right, we'll see where you go. Maximus, we'll see where you end up in the end, which we will find out next season, maybe. Yeah. But I also want to get into a little bit of season two. I don't I'm not going to go too hard, but I want to kind of touch on at least the fact that we learn about this professor who's raised this dog to be like his loyal companion that like it's his like his his dog. He keeps it secret from everyone else. And then he's got the secret technology that he hides in his neck. And then you find out that the brotherhood is after him, Mordevar is after him. And then the ghoul by some fate ends up going after him because he sees a bounty. Right. There was a bounty on him. So the scientist who is like, okay, this guy is suddenly very important for some reason. Everybody's after him becomes this target. And I love how that episode ends because it's that shocking moment for Lucy to learn what it means to be in the wasteland is so she like she first meets the doctor who tells him like, you know, you got to adapt if you want to survive up here. Right. And then that episode ends with him telling her to cut his head off with a sahi gaver. Okey dokey. She has to learn faster. I think she's a good she's a quick learner. Like she said it in, I'm sure she said it in a little intro. She's a quick learner. She learns quick that she has to decapitate a few frogs to get to get by in the wasteland. So for the perspective of the player as someone who's played the Fallout games, and I'm sure anyone else out there who's a big fan of the series, I feel like the show did a good job of kind of like adapting that sense of you were in this clean pristine vault with nothing that can really harm you. And then once you get outside the vault, you very quickly have to start drinking dirty water that gives you radiation poisoning. You have to start killing people. You have to start weighing options between morally gray choices. And the games did that immediately. Like it was a constant thing that you had to deal with. And I thought they did a good job of like giving us that in this show. For me, that was already like a high point in the series getting to that like, I feel like I'm watching a game almost like, yes, it's a TV show, but I felt like it was a very good adaptation, even though the show was its own original story. But to that point, I mean, you're watching a game, you give credit where credits do with the cinematography and how they played all this out, because obviously, clearly, this is all CGI and and everything, but the way that they did it, it was so well done to my clearly untrained eyes that I it was very believable as to that's actually where they were at and what you know, the post-apost, I know what I'm trying to say post-apocalyptic, there we go, wasteland of, you know, after a nuclear fallout, but what it would look like and how people might be and could be. And so they set the scene really well. So although I think they did a really good job with tying all that in, especially, you know, visually. I think because we are behind the curtain and we can see the game if I do this a bit, but like to someone who isn't a game fan, I don't think they would know it, that it's a video game adaptation. I think it just made sense in the story for the story that they wanted to tell. Yeah, I've actually read a couple of reviews from people on Amazon that were saying like, I guess this is based on a game, like, or people just had no idea that it's based on a game. And if they're able to watch it and enjoy it for what it is, that I think that speaks very highly to the show. Much like, like, Last of Us kind of did a similar trick where a lot of people did, we're like, oh, they need to make a game out of this, like, it's based on a game. I wouldn't be surprised if we get similar stuff coming from this, like, oh, they should make a dream out of the show, like. That make a really cool video game someday. And to that credit, one of the things that I loved about the show and why I think it was such a great adaptation was it did something that I as a gamer loved to see when I see versions of video games and other medium. And that's where they properly utilize things that look and feel like it's from the game without saying like, oh, here's our version of that thing from that game, much like Yoshi in the Mario Brothers movie, like, yeah, they're not going, eh, how did this, this? Do you remember this? Yeah. Do you remember this? No, it's close enough. I geeked out quite a few times because a lot of times in the show, you were seeing the items from the games. They were named the same, they were box the same, they looked the same, the Pip Boy was fucking like spot on. Like, the Pip Boy was pretty unimpressive that they had like fully functional working Pip Boys, or at least they made him look like they were fully functional. And everything about the vaults look authentic, everything looked like it was from the games, the items, the things that were using, the drugs, the chems, everything was the same. So, yeah, everything, everything was the same. The monsters looked like they looked in the games. It wasn't some variation of like, oh, this is what we are going to tell you as a red roach, you know, or, you know, what the ghouls are. Everything, like they said, it's canon. So, it's the same, which I really appreciate because I can't tell you many times, like, especially with old video game movies that were like just got awful, some of the worst stuff. I'm thinking more like Resident Evil, which I love the Resident Evil movies, but God, they're terrible adaptations. And then if you got like just a swath of like, we bowl garbage movies, Silent Hill wasn't bad. Silent Hill did a pretty decent, but it still did its own thing. I was thinking about the Super Mario Brothers movie with the Goombas, that's what it was. The Goombas are eight feet tall, it's like, yeah, with a really small height. Like, okay, sure. Overall, like, I really enjoyed a lot of that from the show that it was very authentic. And that's what made me like, okay, this is how it should be done. I don't want to go too hard into each episode. So, I think this is, I'll go ahead and move us on into like talking about more of our favorite moments from the show. Ian, you already kind of touched on yours, but so I'll throw it to Tim to do his, and then we can come back to you again, and if you want to go into more detail. So, Tim, what's some of your, at least one of your favorite moments from this show? So, we already kind of touched on it a little bit, but I do the conversations about sex and the views of sex in this show really did amuse me greatly. And the whole conversation in the lockdown between Lucy and Maximus, when she was like, "Floor's very flippantly." So, you want to have sex?" And he's like, "Oh, right." And the way he describes his own, he's like, "You want to use my cock?" And the way he describes it, and he's like, "It goes big like a pimple, then it explodes." And he's just like, "I'm just, you know, he seemed very uncomfortable with the whole idea." And she's like, "Well, yes, it should do that every time, because it's quite normal." And she was educating him about his own, that whole, that, I had to pause it and I was laughing so hard by the end of that, because I was just like, "Well, there was a coughing fit attached to that as well, but you know, I'm just getting over ahead and chest cold." But I was watching that, and I started laughing, then I started coughing, then I laughed some more than I coughed some anyway, so I required to pause. That and the use of the words, the phrase, "Okey-dokey," and all these weird and awkward situations, like when in episode two, where she goes to cut off Will Zigg's head, and she's just like, "Okey-dokey, like this is what she's going to do." And, you know, she's got a, she's got a, she's, you know, trying to escape the body shop. "Okey-dokey," this is what we're, you know, she's going to go hang now with the ghoul. "Okey-dokey," you know, it's just, all these different things, but I just, I just, I enjoy those little things about the show. I think they're the most, you know, the, between the cameos and just some of these little, these little things that, things that I recognize, the 50s Americana in the game bringing back that essence into the game and, and all these different little things. What were some of the cameos? Michael Rappaport, first off, was the night Titus. Oh, okay, okay, okay, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, I didn't pick up what that was him. Yeah, I didn't either until he pulled up his, because they had the voice modifier on, as soon as they pulled up his, and showed his face, and he started cursing like a sailor, and I was like, "Oh my God, that's Michael Rappaport. That's awesome." And I, so I was kind of hoping his character was going to stick around a little bit longer. He didn't. He got the dead. And so that was one of them. Matt Barry. Yeah, Matt Barry is in it. Which one was Matt Barry? He was the, the, the cutting robot in the, in the body. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's a guy from Lacey Troud. Yep, okay. Yeah, yeah. And so now I, now I hear my voice every time I walked into my own home, and I thought that was pretty entertaining. Yeah, yeah. That was the puzzle. And it was Cooper. Chris. Yeah, and Chris Parnell. Chris Parnell was the one I got over here. Oh, yeah, four. I'm trying to think who else. There was a couple more. Yeah, Michael, I might say, but I suppose. Mattie, Matt, what is it? Cardopo? Cardropo? You know him if you see him, but he, he's one of the, he played one of the guys at the body shop in episode like three or four. Okay, one of the guys on the couch. Yeah, he's one of the guys on the couch. And he was he, one of the people in, let me sneak in and say he's unfortunate. That's TV show. Yes. I haven't seen that. Yeah, that. And he's also in free guy where he's like, you know, starts yelling at his mom not to play with this special sock. Yeah. So that's my special sock leave alone, mom. Anyway. But yeah, so he's in it. And yeah, there's just a lot of really good cameos that are, are well done, even if they're, even if they're just in there for the, the one episode like Medi Cardropo or, or the other guy whose name I already. I feel like Chris Parnell had to be that overseer. Like I expect no one else to play that character other than Chris Parnell. It was so perfect. Perfect. Yeah. He, you know, because honestly hit the, the, the overseer number four reminded me of the doctor he played. It was it on 30 Rock. Yeah. Yeah. Dr. Spaceman. Dr. Spaceman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's been chairman. So, but yeah. Vault four was a highlight for me in general. That was just a weird, but like that's the thing about it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was just, because you'd, you'd already seen the back story of a vault for, um, with it being overseen by scientists. And so you know, something's going on as soon as you go in when there's, we do remember having noses on their forehead. Yeah. I had that moment because we see the flashback with Walter Gagan's character, where he does the commercial with vault four in it. And the scientists are talking about like living among scientists and like doing the thing to help, you know, save humanity. And then as soon as you realize that Lucy and Maximus are involved for you, you're like, Oh, that's the one that Howard was doing the commercial for. And then you start seeing like, Oh, this place is wrong. Something's not right. And then when they show that hollow tape to Lucy of what happened to the original scientist and then you're like, Chris Parnell was like, well, the creature in that hell of tape was like my great, great uncle half removed or something. And it was like, Oh, yeah. And he said it was his uncle Phil. Yeah. I love the dark humor and the satire in the show. And that's something that I feel like some people might not understand going into this, that it's absolutely satire and dark humor. Oh, yeah. And the dark humor in the show was in point, absolutely on point. In the end of the episode where they send her away with loads of food and get the care package management. Do you think she's going to get killed? He's got the, he's holding up the, you know, he's like, he's going to cut her head off. Then he's like, trying to cut the, he's trying to cut the, he's like, we should really get this sharpened. I'm just like, this is fantastic. Yeah. The writing is on this show is just, yeah. Great. And like, I was talking to Brandi about this who unfortunately couldn't do this episode with us because we were breaking down a lot of like the political drama that's happening within the show that leads into the satire of itself because the whole premise of Fallout is this is something that could have possibly happened, you know, depending on how history played out. And if after World War II, you know, if the powers that be didn't kind of calm down and then pursued like a nuclear war, this very well could have happened. Not to mention there's the corporate greed of Vault Tech. They were basically making it happen. So they were, as we learn in the show in the later episodes, Vault Tech basically started the war to sell vaults, essentially. And it's just a bunch of rich, powerful people fucking the world for their own gain. So just the terrible world created by terrible people. Yep. I wanted to say too, like, I actually, one of my favorite scenes in the show was the part with the Codsworth robot, the butcher shop robot, and just his dialogue and how funny that was when she walks in and goes, "What the fudge?" And he goes, "There's no fudge here." Like, very matter-affectly. Right. Right. And then the whole like, lulling her into the sense of security of like her telling him what happened out in the wilds. And he's like, "Oh, that's terrible. No, I can't believe that." I was afraid I was going to be a sex slave. Oh, that's, no, that will never happen. It's understandable. We're just going to harvest your organs. Like, and there it is. That is what the wasteland does. Yeah. That's what it does. I know you read- Oh, yeah, Fred Armisen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Fred Armisen, the DJ. Yeah. Cameo. Yes. Yeah. That was one that was- All the time. Obvious to me, and I forgot. Yeah. I'll fill this side. I'll fill this other thing. Oh, so weird. And like, that little lecture that he had with Thaddeus about the highs, mids and lows. And the guy's like, "Yeah, yeah." That kid was from a super, super store, I think it was? Was it? Like, it was like a Walmart- I know of a show. Yeah, he's in that. And he plays like, you know, thinks he's like a gangster kind of kid. And just, he plays it really well. He's just, yeah, it's very funny. And so as soon as I saw him on this one, I was like, "Oh, yeah, it's that kid from super store." Yeah, I've already hit on Vault 4 and the intro to the goal. But that, the first convergence moment of where everyone's in the same place in Philly, where it gets uber violent really quickly. Michael Emmett- Shockingly so. Michael Emmett's leg gets blown the fuck off. And then wackiness ensues, but Maximus comes on in his armor to try and save people, I guess. And that convergence moment just made me like, it felt like, I have this, this, this love of TV shows where everything's disparate until it's not. And it just coincidentally, everyone ends up in the same place for like a common purpose. And that's what it felt like to me. And it was something like the third episode, but that, and I know they go off in their own directions as well afterwards, but it just felt, it just felt right. It just felt like something special happened in Philly. Yeah, that scene was really cool. I was actually going to bring that up and ask about how you guys tell about the shocking violence that ensued during that scene. It was a little rough at first, because I was like, I mean, I knew that there was going to be some level of violence. I mean, that's just kind of what goes along with the game as well. I mean, it just, you know, there's some blood and gore in the game. And so I expected to see some blood and gore in the TV show. I was not expecting to see Will's ex leg get shot off just because. And I was like, oh my God. And then, you know, they're all out, you know, gun fight that I mean, and that the ghouls weapon, holy crap, that gun, that's not putting little holes in people that was putting. I love the iconic sound that it made to it like the thump. Yeah, yeah, that was ridiculous. When he would hit somebody with that, I was like, yeah, they're dead. They're done. Yeah, that was that it just kind of took me back for a couple of seconds. And then I was like, oh, okay. But the indifference also of the of the people around who weren't exactly involved in the gun fight, who were just kind of like laying back to it, like the lady, the lady or man, I don't know what it was, but the person in the back of the shop, just sitting there eating their beans, you know, when they need to come get a new leg for Will's egg. And they're like, I'm trying to eat my beans. Like, like, they couldn't be bothered. Everything is blowing the hell up less than 20 feet away from them. And they're like, no, no, no, I'm eating my beans. Leave me be again, a humor. I love that scene a lot. Actually, I thought it was great. I mean, I kind of love high violence like that. And then you just watching people's heads explode to me is a good time. I'm one of those people, though, who I've been playing violent video games for a long time. So I'm kind of desensitized to it. So I'm like, yeah, make it rain with brain. I understand it's been jarring for some people. That was probably a little off putting probably the worst part of that scene, which was hard for Brandy was watching the dog gets stabbed. And she was like, motherfucker. And I'm like, the dog's going to be fine. She was like, how do you know? I'm like, I just know, like the dogs too important to just kill off. And especially because like, we've learned like nobody, no death kind of thing. Once the dog got stabbed, the dog is out of focus for the entire rest of the scene until it comes back. And you're like, oh, yeah, the dog and the ghoul heals the dog. So I was like, you see, it's all right. Then we're good. Yeah, when they healed the dog, I was like, yeah, you're lucky. You're lucky healed the dog. We're about to hate your character real hard. Exactly. Those are gaggons earlier. Make me dislike you. One of the things that I remember too as we were talking that I really enjoyed was that scene when Thaddeus and Maximus were fighting the the grabber gobbler thing. Yeah. And like that whole scene and just the chaos and the way the music picks up, like do, do, do, do, do, do, do, and like the dude screaming as he's getting like pulled into the gobbler's mouth. And then just the giant explosion of its stomach like blowing out and just blah. And they're like, they have that little like party. Like, yeah, it was just so goofy and silly. And I loved it. Was anybody else weirded out by the fact that when they showed the inside of its mouth, it was all fingers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was a question. It was, yeah. I was like, I mean, they did say it was like a genetic experiment. Right. I did like the dog, you know, hearing the high pitch was kind of tilted my head a little bit, you know, in terms of like Thaddeus of your old, like, how stupid are those massive backpacks as square as ever? So over the top, it makes sense why you can pick up so much in follow and then not be able to carry anything anymore. But still, it's just massive. They were stupid. They couldn't catch up. It's barely good. It reminds me of a combination of like golf caddies with like Monty Python with the king and his squire following him kind of thing. Like he just needs some coconuts. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Especially when they're going into the fight and you know, you've got the, you've got the mech walking in front and they're all like behind all like hand on hand. Like you see a lot of military movies were there. They'll go with very military. Yeah. But that's still kind of amused me because I was like, right once the mech goes goes away, y'all are screwed because you got no armor and there's no helmets. There's no nothing. They're just and they're with like a blaster. I appreciate the ending and little about face of the ending where everyone you thought was good was bad and everyone is bad is good. I appreciate that. I didn't, for at least six of the episodes, I didn't get, I didn't get that. That was going to happen, which is very surprising. So we can kind of like wrap that up into our like overall like impressions of the show too with like how the ending worked and stuff. I did want to just touch on a few things about how the show relates to the games a bit because I think they did a pretty good job of kind of like borrowing a little bit from the narratives of the games because the plot line with Lucy going after her father is very similar to Fallout 3 because that's actually Fallout 3's plot line essentially is you were born in a vault. Your dad is this like very popular famous scientist and then mysteriously he leaves the vault and you don't know why and then you have to go looking for him out in the wasteland. And then there are other bits that borrow from like Fallout 4 like the dog clearly dog me is straight from Fallout 4 and he's a big companion character within that game. And then we also have like the New California Republic, which is straight from Fallout New Vegas. And then we even see New Vegas at the very end. The closing shot of the show was New Vegas, which I actually had to like take a moment because we were like, where is this? What is this? And there was the giant tower, which at first looks like the Space Needle. But then it was like, but it wouldn't make sense for Hank to go to Seattle, not to mention it was surrounded by deserting mountains. So I had to actually do a little bit of Googling to see, you know, does Vegas have a tower? And it does. It says it in the credit sequence of each show. It shows you an important location in the next episode. And it was a sign for New Vegas, right? On the in the holiday. Well, that's extra confirmation. I just I literally looked up the tower in Vegas and I was like, Oh, okay. Yeah, that's that tower. Well, that's because when I saw the the Space Needle thing, I assumed it was Seattle. And I was like, well, you know, they're not that far from a high desert in Yakima in Seattle. And after a nuclear fallout, it can it can change the landscape and all those different things. I thought, well, maybe it is Seattle, but that actually makes more sense. Seattle, of course, is a lot farther away from LA than Vegas is. And I was like, there's no way hate just ran to Vegas or to all the way to Seattle. So yeah, no, but extra proof then, too, that it did show the sign with. So I first noticed it on the like two episodes before where it showed the like the fiddling and radio shack in the credits of the one where we haven't even got there. Yeah. So yeah, there's definitely a sign saying New Vegas here. Yeah. Okay. They're doing a good job of incorporating everything. And again, like, you know, given them credit that everything is kind of can and it's tying into things. I know there is a little bit of discourse amongst fans for New Vegas that what the show is doing kind of hurts the original narrative of New Vegas. But that's kind of beyond me and how it ties in as far as I know it kind of makes sense. But then again, I haven't really played New Vegas. So if that's something that upsets you, tell us in the comments, let us know if that's a thing you're bothered by, but that's the fact that Shady's George was blown up. And now, you know, the whole thing would vault Shady Sam. Thank you. And then follow the vault for was like a bunch of their refugees essentially. So let us know tell us what should have been done there. Let's let us move on to a quick wrap up. I'm going to do this the least favorite moments quick, because I know everyone's got a kind of mutual feelings on the particular subject. The puppy burning. The puppy burning. Don't burn puppies. I don't care if it's a show. I don't care if you're mulching them. I don't care if it's going to give you energy or or fertilizer or whatever. Don't burn puppies. But how are we supposed to know how evil they are? I don't care. Don't burn puppies. I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I obviously wasn't a very big fan of that either. And it was funny because Brandi hates any animal violence whatsoever in any medium. So like I literally like as that happened where you watch this fucker put a puppy into a furnace, I literally turned to Brandi and went by expecting her to just be like, done. And done, done. Would you look at that? I got a thing to go catch. Yeah, I also got a message of Tom shot up Tom as he's well known. And he said, fuck burning puppies, please. Yeah, that part wasn't the best. That's rough. I mean, Brandi, we're seeing terrible shit throughout the show and we get it that there's a lot of horrible people in this setting and it's only going to get worse. We probably could have done without the actual physical show we can of that. I think that there's enough other things that you find out about Vault Tech and what they did and how they did and leaning up to the end of this first season that I don't think you needed to have the actual act of putting a puppy in the fire. I think it could have just been like, you know, alluded to. It could have been like an axe on a chalkboard that said dispose or something. Right. Right. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's something that alluded to that the puppies were done away with, but showing them was it was a little much for me. So if I have one complaint about the series, I think that's probably it. I don't really have, I don't really have anything else to hang my hat on as to what I didn't like about the series. I hate it. I hate it. The burning piece. Now Ian, you put something in about the music in your notes. What did you mean by that? Let me put it like this. The music was great in a way. It was well done in the way that it was implemented and it was good songs and everything. What the music did do is take me away from what I was watching on screen in a lot because there was such a disconnect between what's going on and the screen to the music. Sometimes it just didn't fit. It didn't fit and it and that's the vibe of Fallout and I get that. I mean, that's a lot of the satire too, the way the music counters. So you mean like during some of the harder, darker scenes and then they have this cheery upbeat music? Yeah. And that's not necessarily a bad thing in all circumstances. It just the things that get me and to, well, the things that get me to cry and feel emotion is good accompanying music to things. The only things that ever made me cry is is a death with a really good backing track. Are you hitting emotional? Yeah. Pour your heart out kind of stuff and that gets me. But it just took me out of it. I don't think their intention was to make you cry at all in the show though. No. Sometimes it just felt a bit the choice of even maybe there was a different choice of 50s music that they could have used in a certain place which kept me in the scene rather than listening to music or watching the scene. I think there's a valid take though. I think a lot of the music though that I heard during the show, I mean, I'm not a 50s musical expert, but a lot of it felt like it was made for the show itself in the vibe of that era. Yeah. I know some of them are legit songs. I don't know if all of them are. Yeah. I mean, there's quite a few of them that were straight up classics, but some of them where I was like, I don't think, I'm pretty sure that's a fallout original. I mean, for me as a Fallout 3 fan, that's the one I played the most of. I loved the closing to episode two, whatever we were talking about, like Lucy having to cut the dude's head off, and she does the okey-dokey, and when it cuts the credits, it plays the song that I associate Fallout with, and that's the, like, I don't want to set the world on fire. I just want to set your heart ablaze or something. Like, that's the song that's burned into my brain from playing Fallout 3 back in the day. So I was like, oh, perfect. Like, it was like the right exact moment. I like the music for the most part, but I understand that it could be, like, off-putting or off-setting. There was a few times where I feel like the music was there more for the lyrics and not the actual tune. Yeah. So. Yeah. Over the setting, it was just, yeah, something died in. Yeah, I think I'm probably in the minority in front feeling that I'm just judging by chatter. Oh, good. Well, like, with that, let's move on to our rating of this season for the Fallout. It's dropped like a big fat nuclear bomb. We've blasted through this first season of Fallout. Let's do our overall take and score out of 10, what you thought of the entire season of Fallout. So, as I said in the notes, it's a very solid 9 out of 10, perhaps even a 9.5. I was hooked from the very first episode. I wanted to keep watching. So on the one hand, I was very glad that all the episodes were dropped because I wanted to watch them back, to back, to back. And at the end of the season, I wanted more. I wanted to see what was going to happen next and where they were going and how they were going to catch up with Lucy's dad, Hank, and what was going on and what was going to happen with that, especially now that, you know, Moldaver had the the cold fusion and she was able to light up the town and, you know, all this different stuff. So I was very curious about all that. Probably not giving it a full 10 just because of the puppy burning. So that's going to knock it down a little bit. But, you know, not enough to get it out of the nines, that's for sure. It just, the series is so well written and so well put together, both visually and everything else. It's just, it's really well done. And yeah, I just, I can't, I don't have enough good things to say about it, even though I don't have a full, like deep, you know, knowledge of, you know, all this fallout stuff. Well, that's a point in and of itself, your perspective as a person who's not someone who's played the games, I didn't, I didn't feel the need to have that knowledge of that of the background and the lore of all the rest of the fallout. I didn't feel like I was missing anything. I felt like I was able to sit down, watch the show. And although it may not be, you know, step for step with what's in the games, I think it helps you feel like you kind of understand what goes on in the games and everything else. By Buddy John, who is a huge fallout guy, he's like, yeah, he watched the first couple episodes and he's like 10 out of 10. They're nailing it. This is perfect. His wife messaged me today. And she's like, she's like, yeah, this is even better than Last of Us, Amazon's killing it. I'm on the same wavelength, Tim. I'm on the same way, feeling it. Feeling it. Feel the reds. Oh, yeah. I'm going for a nine out of 10 as well. Just again, my little things were really that annoyed me a little bit. The puppy burning, obviously being one of them, the amount of times I've said puppy burning in this last five minutes, just makes my heart think. A little bit of the music and stuff. Echoing you, Tim, again. I didn't know anything about the games. I knew enough to see a couple of references here and there, but it didn't matter. So to the point where I'm trying to get my mum to watch it, and my mum was really off-put by the words video game adaptation, because she's like, I don't know anything about the video game. I don't want to watch this. It's going to be rubbish because video game had a bit adaptation, and I'm just saying you don't need to know anything about the games. It tells you everything. You're immersed in the world straight away. It's got wall and goblins in it. He was a boy crowder. I think you'll like it, and she's watched the first couple of episodes, and she's loving it. I think it's good for newcomers to get into the world, and you don't have to play the games afterwards. It's just really good for the IP. I do loads of stuff with it. I think it does a good job for that specifically, where it's like it might get people to be like, now I'm curious about the games, and there's a good chance you're going to go play it, and we already know player numbers are spiking with people checking the games out now with the show. I'm going to piggyback right off of you guys. I'm also landing on a really firm 9.5. It depends. We don't really have a set amount, but it's damn near perfect in a lot of ways. I think, Tim, you said it's better than the last of us, and I think that's extremely high praise, because the last of us did so many things right, but then so many things not great that like, there's no things I loved about the last of us. I love that they went deeper into the narrative. I love that they explored certain things a bit, but then where they completely were like, we're going to make things completely different. It was like, you kind of fuck the pooch on that one. Obviously, fallout being an established IP, but with an original narrative, they have a little bit more flexibility, but they delivered it so well and so perfectly. You said your friend who plays fallout was like, this is perfect, because even though it's an original story, the setting feels right, the characters look right, the characters feel right, the music feels right. Everything matches with what you expect within the games, and that's where within the first, I don't know, 20 minutes of watching the first episode with all the vault action in the beginning, I was like, this is so spot on. This is like already in my mind. This is the best video game adaptation I've ever seen. And I think that's a great thing that we have this now in this in this age of like, video game adaptations were just so bad. And like, it was so hard for people to translate them into the other mediums. And they're doing such a good job with fallout because TV is the best way to do a video game adaptation. It's so much harder to squeeze things into a movie for an hour and a half, two hours. I'm tired. Yeah. There's a good, bad video game reference movie. But yeah, I really enjoyed the show. I love the characters overall. I love the way the story was playing out. It felt familiar, but different. The satire, the humor, like, there was a good couple of times where I kind of like puckered a little bit and like kind of getting on the edge of my seat, not really knowing what was going to happen. Obviously, it does have its low points with a few things, but for the most part, the writing really carries it through. I felt like the last episode had a really good highs, but also some poor lows, especially with the ending with like Lucy talking to her dad. I felt like that dragged on a little too much. But overall, I liked that big epic finale that has like the cold fusion reactor gets activated and you see all of LA light up and everybody's like, Oh, shit. Not to mention just the overall megaton bomb of this was all vault text doing. Our whole world was fucked by them, essentially, and the powers that be. And I want to say, I loved the flashbacks of everything that do with Walter Goggin's character in the past. I love all of that, the scene so well was so good. I love the comparison and how like people like I said this to Brandy offline, like the culture of the world essentially stopped when the drop bombs dropped. So people are trapped like living in the style of 1950s, because just culture ceased to happen after that. That's why there's the music. That's why there's the haircuts. That's why there's the style of clothing, the style of food, just everything gets like time-capseled. But I really enjoyed it all around. Absolutely. It was very good. And if you didn't like the show, either you didn't like the violence or you didn't understand that it was satire because I know that happens. People don't understand satire sometimes and they get kind of anti whatever something's doing. But there are actually a pretty significant number of people out there who are unhappy with this show, and I did not know that these people existed, but there are fallout purists apparently. And it's not their fallout. And I thought only Star Wars fans complained like this, but you know. Halo had that too when Halo launched. They're just not my Master Chief kind of thing. Yeah, that kind of thing. And so it's the same kind of thing, same kind of vibe. I'm getting is the same the people who complained about Halo are the same people who are complaining about fallout who complain about some of those other things. I feel like that's also the kind of people who like get butt hurt when games become multi-platform. That's my game. You can't have it. Like, yeah, why can't they why can't it not be open to more people to experience fun and what people play with? Yeah, absolutely. Pretend it. Pretend it doesn't exist. Like, I pretend that Rocky 5 doesn't exist. Just watch. I pretend like whole sections of Phantom Menace and episode two, Attack of the Clones don't exist. So I understand. Before we go before we close this out, I wanted to throw out just some quick like, you know, where do we think the show's going to go? Because we do know the show's already been approved or greenlit for season two, which I feel like. Let's go. I feel like that news broke before the show even hit Amazon, like before I went live, we learned that they were going to do a season two. So they must have gotten some really good numbers. Anyways, the ending of the show was pretty damn good and it left things very open. They definitely did a good job of setting themselves up because I hate when shows are like, we don't know if we're going to get renewed. So we have to like tie most of the little bows together. So we have some sense of conclusion. I hate when that happens. Oh, no, this is wide open. There's so many angles. There's so many directions this can go. I mean, it could be a whole other season before we even see Hank again. Season two could have nothing to do with Hank. It could focus on the ghouls travels with Lucy and dog meat. There's just the three of them and what they're doing. And then with some Maximus kind of sparse then here and there with just some hints at what Hank's doing. It could be a whole season again. And I actually had to be okay with that because there's enough other story to figure out what's going on because there's other players from not like the actual players, but players to the whole vault tech system that are I'm sure are out there somewhere somehow that have to be held accountable. Trying to find trying to find the ghouls family. And where's his wife? Where's his daughter? I'm kind of curious about all that. I would be shocked if they don't find another fucked up vault somewhere in the middle of on their way to wherever they're going. They said there were hundreds. So, I mean, we've only we've only seen four of them. We've seen 31, 32, 33 and four. I mean, if they continue like East in the series, they could hit vaults from the games too, because like we saw the closing shot is in New Vegas. So there could be some crossover. There could be some story overlapping going on there. They could bring in characters from the games and they could keep going East with a show and make their way through false that are in the games. I really want to know what happened with Norm and the little bud, bud, the brain, brain, brain, but little brain bubble. Yeah, I actually I was going to mention that I'd love that the brain bubble and him like, I'm going to get you and then he just like crashes like, don't go anywhere. I love that. I'm going to stick you with this. Could you please hold still? No, don't go in there. Don't go in there. He's gone in there. Oh, he's going in there. Don't turn the light on. Oh, we turn the light on. I love that part. That was some of the best funny humor there. So there's the new key. You could make theories of where the show might go based on the video games, especially with the closing shot in New Vegas. I agree with you, Tim, that I would love for them to just spend a little bit more time with the characters. And that also hits on my feelings with Maximus. We're still kind of like, man, the closing bit with him where Dane said, oh, you killed the leader of the group we were after. And he's like, no, don't do it. And then she holds his hand up and you're like, you know, night, Maximus, night, Maximus. And at first I was like, oh, that doesn't feel good. But then I realized if he's a night now and he can start leading the brotherhood that opens up a lot of opportunities of where they could go with the story with the brotherhood. Yeah. It's like, okay, okay. It kind of kicked that whole door wide open again, because it was kind of closed there for a little while as to what Maximus could or couldn't do. And even the fact that the cleric for the brotherhood of steel was willing to overlook anything that Maximus had done before. And he's like, just stay here with me and we'll build this. You know, you'll be my sword. I'll be the he said the head. Yeah, the head. Yeah. And you can do my sort of respected him for the guile that he had to do what it took to survive and thrive. Yeah. Yeah, Maximus. Do you have any hopes or thoughts or theories, Ian? I want to see the end of the enclave so that they can fuck off burnings, but stop burning puppies. I want to see more of the enclave as well, because basically we only saw them in that. Yeah. That one sequence with the training of dog meat doing the bounties. Well, yeah, they were pretty anonymous for most of it. And that's a major faction that has been established and then sort of left to one side for later season. It looks like true. Yeah, they kind of like just kind of glazed over the enclave all together. But that's fair, especially if they if they're planning this outright, you know, a lot to do to do the rest of the too much too many cooks at some point. Sorry. Yeah, and that's another well, yeah, but I'm agreeing with you that there's too many tropes when you come to adaptations, but they got to cram a lot of stuff into a really short period of time. It's kind of my issue that I've been having with Halo is they're going too fast and I'm like, slow down, slow down, back up, back up. Like, no, no, no, takes take time to let it breathe and explore things. So I'm glad that it feels like they're doing it right. It's a lot of lore to get into. When we're going to get that next season, I don't know, but they should make it weekly episodes. That was something we all agreed on that it was a mistake that they dropped all of it once. For sure. I mean, I guess they wouldn't have known that it would it would have hit so well, but you could have something and some sort of like feeling that it's going to be at the talk of the town for a bit. Like that first episode is now in the quarter and there's so much to talk about that. But we couldn't we can't cover it all because we've only got an hour after the series, really. That could have kept us going for a full week, 100%. And it's kind of annoying that maybe in like three or four weeks, then no one's really going to be talking about Fallout anymore. I think a lot of the episodes ended on great cliffhangers too. It's like, oh, I can't wait to see what's going to happen next episode, rather than just like skip next episode instant gratification, you know, especially the closing shot of episode. I want to say six when it ends with Norm going into Vault 31, and you don't know what he sees. And you're like, what is it? What is he see, you know? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I think that they really just grew the pooch here because you had an opportunity for this great PR wave for at least two to three months of PR for this series. So instead, we're going to get a very short and tight like, like Ian said, a very short tight PR window. We're in a couple of weeks. People will not be talking about this, which is a shame, because this series is so good and it deserves to have PR buzz around. And the next time we're probably going to hear anything about it, is when it comes time for award season. And some of these, I think you're going to see this show win a few awards. I'd be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. And so I'm hoping that Amazon watches this, you know, because this is a joint thing with MGM that hopefully, and with them, the Sadie and everybody goes, you know, this next season, let's put it out episodically, let's put it out one at a time, let's stretch this out, let's get the PR from it, let's do all the things, you know, because not only that, you had to watch a commercial to get into the episode, they can, they can get more money for, you know, sponsorships, all these different things, because that's what, you know, these things are all built around. But, you know, I'm just looking at it going, you had a great show, it's phenomenal. On the one hand, I'm so very glad that it was dropped like the atomic bomb and just everything was just there for me to just binge watch, because of my head cold, the last quarter chance I was just able to just to sit down and watch it. On the other hand, now I'm sitting here kind of going, so what are we watching now? You know, there's, there's not the excitement build up. And think about us at Cowshoop, watching now podcast, for example, like we've got 10, what, 10 hours of content more on Halo this year. And this, I'm guessing, is the superior show out of it, out of the two. And we're going to have maybe an hour and quarter, a quarter, maybe an hour and a half of content on this show, which was, which is so much better and there's so much more to talk about in my head anyway, but I didn't watch Halo, sorry. So it's just a bit of a shame. It's just a bit of a shame. Agreed. I wonder if something happened with Amazon where they were getting burned on their episodic weekly drops, because most of their shows have been episodic. Like rings of power was episodic. The boys is episodic. Gen V was episodic. What happened? It was weird. Yeah, invincible thing. But what happened? I'm not really sure why this was, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. There was, there was no indication given as to why all of a sudden now they were like, okay, so this one we're just going to put it all out there. We're going to Netflix this, which I hated that they did. That was Stranger Things, Netflix. Like, I'm trying to think if there's any other competition right now too, because like of the other big shows I'm watching right now, I'm watching Shogun, and I'm watching X-Men 97. But I wouldn't call that direct competition to fall out, though. Yeah. The only thing that I can think of is maybe the worried about the tail and when, when house the dragon starts. But even at that, if they had done it right, yeah, but even at that, if they had done it right, leading option to it, people are going to want to watch it and they're still going to watch it. Even if they didn't watch it the moment it released, they were still going to watch it, because they were going to be invested in it. Yeah. So releasing all the episodes at once, it's just, it's bad marketing as far as I'm concerned. It's just, they just didn't have faith in it, and they really surprised. Could be. Yeah, but if they were already, had already green lit up for a second season before this episode came out. I'm still thinking about them getting burned on their other shows, releasing them weekly, and then it's not giving back the return as that they were hoping for it. So they're just like, fuck it, just put it all out there and let's be done with it. That's the only thing I could figure is that some, they weren't getting numbers back on something and something. Because reason powered into great, right? Like, I feel like, crazy power. It did good, but it, again, it pissed off the purists. I thought it was fantastic. I like, I love Lord of the Rings. I thought it was a really good show. There were a few things about it that were off putting, and that's a whole nother topic for a whole nother show. But there are things, you know, but I know that the numbers on that started high, and then consistently dwindled as this episode. One of those people, I only watched the first two episodes. I think I watched three here. I watched all of it. So, anyways, Amazon, get your shit together. Do it episodic. Yeah, help us help you. So, yeah. We talked about your show for eight weeks. At least. Eight weeks, at least. You know, because we, and we wouldn't have been the only ones. There had been other podcasts, other shows out there that have been talking about this series for a solid two months. I mean, if, at best, we're going to talk about follow on our other podcast for screen smash, too, because it's game related, but we're not going to go in any extreme death or detail. Not that you would have. No. And why would you? You know, that's a thing. So, it's a shame. It's a no to Amazon. It's a no to Howard. Get on that. Fix it. Do it right. Every otherwise, everything's great. We're all pretty happy with the show. We had a very time with it. No more burning puppies. Drop it episode. Episodic. But keep up the good work. It's good so far. Keep on. Yes. Keep on. Keep on on fabulous, some would say. Okie dokie. Okie dokie. Oh, look, you can get the bubble on the screen. All right, everybody. That'll do it for us this week. I'm couch soups watching now. One off podcast of the Fallout series. Be sure to check it out if you're a fan of the games, because it's good. If you're a fan, you can check it out if you're not a fan of the game, because obviously everyone here isn't a big fan. Enjoyed it as well. Be sure to stay tuned with couch soup and keep up with all of our wonderful pop culture, nerdy brain, notness, and let us talk more. Give us more things that allow us to talk about. I can't get over the episodic thing. It's like, ugh. What the heck? Let us feed you. We need so exactly what Ian said. All right, everybody. We will see you next time. Kitoki, cock explode. Are you ready to go down the rabbit hole? The All Things Alice podcast will explore the cultural phenomena of Alice in Wonderland. Frank Bador, the author of the Looking Glass Wars trilogy, is your host through a wonderverse of interviews from all types of creators as they chronicle the dark yet empowering reality of Lewis Carroll's fantasies and answer the question, what is it about Alice that captivates us still today? The All Things Alice podcast, available wherever you listen to podcasts.
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