Smylie Kaufman and Charlie Hulme compare and contrast the two marquee events on the pro golf calendar this past weekend: the PGA Tour's CJ Cup Byron Nelson, and LIV Golf's event in Singapore. Both featured low scores, but LIV's leaderboard was full of recognizable names. SK and CH discuss numerous LIV Golf strategies - with varying effectiveness - and wonder what the PIF's long-term goals are, and how we could see that play out on the stage of American golf. Smylie and Charlie also take look at LIV's career money list since its inception in 2022, and come away mind-boggled at the magnitude of the earnings for several players.
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Taking a deep dive on the LIV Golf career money list
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Comcast business powering possibilities restrictions apply call or visit Comcast business calm to learn more I'm smiley coffin and this is the smiley show welcome back to another episode of the smiley show coming off a a CJ cup iron Nelson week still trying to wrap my head around that that combined tournament title and Frankenstein of a tournament title and and also a live golf Singapore week that is going to be worth discussing because how that that leaderboard shook out and the man who walked away with the trophy who's looking to defend another one of those trophies in a couple weeks but let's let's just start off with you know you're you're at the beach I'm fresh off of getting absolutely doused by a monsoon it's about a road got about six solid holes in for they called us in how we feeling a good relaxing weekend with the fan yeah I know I had one of my good buddies from college Franco Castro he came down with this girlfriend and we luckily I'm not a lobster he he kind of turned out to be a lobster he he kind of felt like he could defeat the Sun but the Sun is undefeated Sun is the Sun is notoriously tough you know imagine thinking you're tougher than the Sun that's a that's a tough go I didn't used to always be a sunscreen guy and then quickly realized I don't think I'm gonna outrun the Sun so yeah so I've seen for Franco hope we got some aloe I'm in a good place yeah any any great place I mean the weather's been so good just been really nice to kind of regroup regroup a little bit had a couple people say enjoy the pod well how about down here so shout out to the listers down here at the beach as well that I mean it's you like this because we were coming off the beach at about let's say one o'clock and we're walking past the pool and underneath the shaded area it's like 17 kids all in different chairs all with sound machines all taking their afternoon naps and all of their parents just like just like taking it in on their cell phones or just like trying to get a breather but I was thinking about this vacationing is like you look so for so much forward to it with your with your spouse and then with your family and and then I realized like wow if it's just you you're just you're just moving home to a different place and it's still just as hard but you are in paradise you're like okay at least I'm getting son at least I'm like watching my kid have a lot of fun but it's still very hard it's this weekend was we were at a wedding in the outer banks and we had the bright idea of saying hey no we should do we should a man his mom was in town like she'll come to the beach with us and we'll bring our son as if like that was going to provide some sort of great relief from the day-to-day rigor's a parenting spoiler alert it did not also our son was sick so it was it was the most brutal scenario like we got maybe an hour of respite we took him to the beach and he and we made sand castles and he splashed around the water and he was like really happy for that one hour of the day and then the rest was just like this is more exhausting and also now I'm run down because because when I'm not watching him I'm like drinking and staying up late and dancing and so yeah and then and then and then driving four and a half hours to get caught in the rain in Sanford, North Carolina and now here I am sitting in front of you rambling on but I tell you what let me let me just I'll segue off that I'll make a little natural transition here because I did my favorite part of the CJ Cup Byron Nelson was after Taylor Pendreth won holding his son watching his son try to grab the wind sock on the microphone all doing the interview with Amanda Balionis that was a ton really happy for Taylor really really you know kind of wild ending to that tournament so let's kind of start there with I mean it looked like Ben Cole's had this thing done and dusted after going birdie birdie 16 17 and then I just I don't even know how to what to make of the mess he made around the green still had a putt set it to a playoff and missed that uncharacteristic for Ben yeah he could have he had a good putt on 18 but you're right Ian Baker kind of said it exactly how you should have it's just a lot of pressure I think the big mistake was just not giving yourself a putt didn't matter about getting a close just give yourself a look worse a worse case scenario Taylor two putts to which is what happened you go on a playoff live to fight another day but walking off that green you could see man how he was just like what just happened and it looks like he had a good putt to me cuz I always watched you know like a good three-point shooter when they I don't ever watch the ball in the air when a when a guy shooting a jump shot I just watched are they sticking their follow-through and did it come off right like did they did they like is it off balance jump shot and with his six footer I was like okay he's his head gonna stay still and is he gonna hold his finish is to get started on his line and all those things happen I'm just like you misread it which you you can't be upset about that you know like we missed reputs all the time it was just the mistakes obviously that I kind of compounded before that led him to the position of I have to make a six and a half footer for par now to put some pressure on Taylor and you know in the interest of full disclosure here because you know we were doing other things this weekend and we were of course checking on the tournament and trying to you know keep abreast of what was happening on tour but at the same time kind of looking at the way it was shaping up and saying not the most entertaining tournament in the world and and I think you know we had a an extended discussion last week comparing the team event on the PGA tour dessert classic with the the thrilling finish and Adelaide and and watching the Aussie Ripper team come out ahead and just comparing contrasting the nature of those events and what they're meant to be and again this week you know I know it probably feels like we're beating a dead horse here but I think you have to kind of look across over to live and compare it to you know what we saw on the PGA tour and and just kind of try to make some sort of takeaway from it and so I think where we kind of started was with this was it just feels like further confirmation of the thing that we've talked about on numerous pods which is we don't need this many golf tournaments right like it this was such a good indication of you know if we had all these guys back together you know it did this event this the CJ cup the Byron Nelson and it could be this you know whatever the regular tour is the B tour beneath the sort of platinum tour beneath the sort of marquee series of 18 or 20 events or whatever it becomes that we all have to tune into because we know the best players are going to show up for those it's just tough to get excited about this when this is being sold as the A of it you're exactly right and I you know I didn't get to watch any of the live golf events I haven't watched many of it throughout the year always check the leaderboards after every day to see mainly how my cliques are doing by the way we got a podium we got a podium finish we got a podium finish for the cliques but then I sent you a screenshot of the top 10 guys on the leaderboard and man that's like the best-looking leaderboard they've had since I can remember like checking leaderboards for a wib I mean it just Brooks kept your cam Smith one - and then you got you know a bunch of other guys like DJ down the down the list John Ron fishing the top 10 so it's just hard to compare you know like when you see that leaderboard then you go and look at the PGA tour leaderboard which for the most part I haven't been a big leaderboard comparison guy and all this I just kind of like try to find like follow the good storylines of the PGA tour and like what the meaning is behind every single week and finish that the players have but this one like stuck like it stuck out like a sore thumb man just because this is kind of what I felt like Liv's strategy was last year which is what's what's what's ever golf term it's the weeks in the B tour events for the PGA tour tour we can really get to momentum to get more people to be like okay don't want to watch this week because it's not an important week for the PGA tour come watch us over here and just like hang out and like try to get more fans in doing so and this year they've kind of taken a little different strategy going head-to-head for instance against the waste management Phoenix Open and they did that trying to do the same week in the Super Bowl in Las Vegas so there's there's been instances this year which they try to compete but to me if they're gonna be a continue to be a disruptor it's like if this week would have been let's say in the States in in New York against the Byron Nelson it would have made huge headlines because I'm sure people would have watched it the crowds would have been amazing but you know being in Singapore I mean I've watched a couple highlights but I mean nothing more than that it doesn't there I have so many questions about the way the lib business is being run and I'm not saying that in like a I could do a better way I just legitimate curiosities around their strategy behind some of the decisions they make because I think the way what you said makes a hundred percent since it's like if we are if the goal is to pull audience away on on softer spots in the PGA tour schedule those should probably be the domestic tournaments those should be the American tournaments because then they fit into American television time slots rather than right right like watching in the middle of the night in Singapore or I guess that re airs on the CW at some point or you can replay that the feed that was on YouTube I don't know like and I get to that part of the appeal of live or at least what they're selling us on right now is a sort of global tour you know they're going to different places in Singapore is one of those places where they want to have a presence you know they're aligned with the Asian tour so that part of it makes sense but it's the strategies confusing to me of like don't put you know live Vegas up against the WM on Super Bowl weekend like do live Vegas this week you know put put Singapore of that weekend if you want to try to go ahead and pull audience in different times where you're not where you're you're not going ahead to head with the Super Bowl or the WM but you're playing on the same weekend so I mean I that that one will forever confuse me and I think you know to kind of further that point a little bit and talking about the decisions they make and and the way they structured some things we were talking a little bit about just golf course selection venue selection you know as a piece of the whole puzzle of how to get people interested or excited in these events and I think this weekend you know we we we famously kid about TPC Craig Ranch on on the show a number of times but I mean look at where we ended up with both events we had I think it's centosa in Singapore we had two courses that were just getting absolutely lit up both courses taken on a lot of water so it's ball on hand so the scoring conditions were even better and there was just no real intrigue on that front so then you kind of go back to where we started at the leaderboard where it's like okay there are a bunch of of you know no offense to the PGA tour leaderboard but a bunch of names that most people are not familiar with and then you go down you know the live leaderboard and it is Brooks Kepka, Cam Smith you know Mark Leishman, Taylor Goode, Tyrol Hadd, Thomas Peters, Dustin Johnson, Joaquin Neiman and so on and so forth and I think you know that's kind of I think I both have a question that comes off that which is like is it compelling given the names alone it sounds like your answer to some agrees yes I also have questions with with relation to like you know looking at some of the live venues and wondering why they haven't made more of a concerted effort to to lock down more interesting venues I know they have some that are former tour stops but that feels like one that if they could could strike some partnerships with some really notable exciting golf courses that have name brand value that's one way to get people in the door and say yeah I'd rather watch that than like TPC crit grant for example yeah no and I think like for instance in TOSA I played in Singapore I played that golf course really good golf course I know there's 36 holes here so I don't know which one of the two that they did play but amazing greens good course crowds there were always like kind of okay the year that I played but obviously the field that they have now is totally different than the Singapore Open that I played in but to your point kind of referencing some of what maybe their strategy might be so their next events in Houston and if you ever watch the Houston Open the golf course that comes of mine is where they always played it over the last 20 30 years it seemed like that course that was called Redstone then is now the golf club of Houston that's where they're playing so there's another event that's like okay the audience and just a general golf fans when they turn the TV on they're like oh yeah I've seen this golf course so there's a little bit of familiarity there and they've done that with a couple places my a cobra Green Breyer and I'm sure there's a couple more than I'm missing but I'm on Spain but that's like a that's not a PGA tour course but to your you know just generally speaking here I think there are there is a lot of golf courses in which the golf fans familiar but I will say that pulling broke the golf club that I'm not familiar with in Chicago seems to be a very odd choice that they kind of needed a like a bang going out it's like hey we're going to a big city we're getting a big-time venue that seemed to be like this had to be probably the last option I would imagine for them to settle in on this place that I'm not familiar with it could be great I could be speaking out of turn here I'm sure Chicago people are like wait this is sick but I think if Chicago golf club I think of Medina like these are legit venues that people know about I know nothing about this place I'm sure it'd be a great hot dog and a great beer and a great 18 holes but I don't know anything about it so I think that just like just kind of tied a bow on the strategy that live golf executives and their team trying to figure out a schedule and this is kind of gone back in the last couple years of it's it's kind of been a bit all over the place like Brooks Kepke evens like when's our schedule coming out yes it seems like they've been a little off the ball on trying to figure out exactly where we're going to play you know what the whole thing has been about let's play global let's grow the game but it's just not hitting you know like these events that are out of out of the country are just not getting besides besides Australia and Adelaide which was a huge hit right try like that to me was like a massive win but even the events in like the United Kingdom where they played at what's the golf course that they played it seemed like a centurion the one in London yeah yes I've I've watched that first one the crowds or whatever so I don't know I get like you need to grow the game you need to keep playing in other places but it seems like it needs to fall fall in that same formula of Adelaide in which you need to go to places that you know that are going to be big hits and right now like it seems like they're just kind of going to where either maybe where the Doward Bills are because I've heard that Singapore was like funded by like like visit Singapore or something like that so maybe they're doing things to try to increase their ROI on all this I don't know I don't know the business model that they have but it seems like the schedule in which they picked your original just kind of point that you were making yes it's just been a bit all over the place yeah a little disjointed and there were comments that Greg Norman made a bleed to Bloomberg the UNI discussed you know leading up to this episode where he was talking about you know you know maybe providing a little bit of insight into the the the booking of these venues the structure of the schedule and just talking about how the Gulf would be long-term to create something equivalent to the tours TPC network you know creating a series of live-owned golf courses that feel like to kind of go back to what we discussed last week that feel like home games for each team you know whether that's you know the you know in in Adelaide it's the Granger or an equivalent to the Grange or however you want to go about that just like this is Ripper's home course and then we go do that every single place for these other teams and and I definitely I like that I wonder if there's a more aggressive strategy you know to be had or they're in the cards for them like I know at one point part of what was being discussed in terms of this whole negotiation between the PGA tour the DP World Tour and the PIF was them wanting to come in and buy and own existing US golf structures you know like like buying Pebble Beach resorts now that would be a very big one and a very expensive one and one that I highly doubt they'd be able to get a real return on investment you know in in thinking about all the complications they'd encounter as part of that process and people who don't want to go there anymore things like that but if you're willing to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in acquiring players because those represent shots across the PGA tours bow I mean can you imagine it again I don't ever think in a million years Pebble Beach resorts would sell you know to the PIF and to the Saudis but just imagine a splash like that where it's like hey guess what we're not doing US opens or the AT&T Pro Am anymore at Pebble Beach because this is now a live exclusive course and in the amount of you know just curiosity factor viewers that would attract if that was in their hands like again I don't think it would ever happen with Pebble but like certainly there have to be things that fit that profile right like you know other resorts or other places where historic things have been played where lift you want to say let's just make a big offer and own this and take it off the table for the PGA tour and for the other major major governing bodies and now it's ours like I think that I think it'd be an interesting strategy business it's all the things that keep this world turning and behind every one of these companies is a partner helping to keep it all moving it's why the local flower shop and your favorite pizza joint the startup in the stadium hospitals and hotels banks and 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can you know win a bunch of money but also be remembered as the next Sam Sneeter the next buyer Nelson and I think what they figured out quickly is like okay everybody's got a price now we're getting to I think the part of the golf industry in which you're just talking about in which where where is their number like where is Pebble Beach's number where is Kia was number where is the PGA of America's number because right now the biggest I mean the PGA tour is so susceptible in so many ways and we figured this out over the last couple years but the fact that they do not have any major championship underneath their umbrella makes them so susceptible because what happens if live golf decides hey Piffs we're gonna we're gonna go buy the PGA of America now with the PGA of America ever do that I don't know I'm sure there's a board and I can't imagine that Seth Waugh would be like pro pro that at all being a much more of a grow-the-game guy versus a like let's make live golf be successful and grow my my pockets as he's a very wealthy man as it is but keep imagine if if the live golf somehow owned the PGA championship and they own the Rider Cup and they owned all of these PGA network events of the PGA of America now these are these are all hypotheticals now because I'm sure I'm sure there's PGA of America instructors now was saying like we would never do that it's like well I mean what's the number because like right now like these rich wealthy PGA tour players said we're wealthy but there's a number well and and I think I think part of it too is like we're trying to do guess work to figure out what the PIF wants to do and what the Saudis want to do on a larger scale and I think that intentionally all all the things they've done or all the you know the what they've tipped has been very little right like they're intentionally very very vague and so I think that you know as a result we're just kind of you know going off of rumors and random reports and guesswork of like what is it that they actually want to do like I don't know we know they want to be in the professional golf business or so it seems at face value and now whether that's meant to be you know any number of plays you know sports washing is out there as a potential you know reason why to kind of you know make their image cleaner to the world so they can also invest in other things so they really want to you know be in and really return a profit now there are you know the ability to kind of interface with high-powered sports owners and other leagues has been floated as one sort of you know entry point that live offers but like you know would it would they want to buy band and dudes you know what they want to buy sand valley like you know what they want to just like you know buy a place like that and operate as a resort when they're not playing their events there and then go play a couple tournaments a year at these places that people have this huge affinity for is these golf destinations I don't know I have no clue but you know it would just seem to be more interesting for them to make an investment in a place like that then saying here we go live championship bowling brook golf club like I just that is absolutely nothing for me and it also kind of in a way makes them a little bit of a laughing stock on in all the places where these things are talked about and that's why to me it's like I would love to be in those meetings like what how do we get to bowling brook that's what I really want to know well I think what comes to mind to me it's like okay you made a great point talking about like if you created these home venues like that was like your big draw from Adelaide it was like okay that was really cool having the rippers being a playoff with the South African team it's like how do you create that type of atmosphere across the world whether you have you know a couple teams in the states and they have these home venues like all that makes sense it's like man like you just kind of do you kind of just run in your head a little bit you're thinking man you put Rory McElroy and Shane Lowry on the same team and that's why like dessert was so cool is that those two guys were you know they look like they're having a lot of fun they they played well and they won and and you could see the the the joy on their faces winning together so like put those two guys on the same team with the two other dudes from near Ireland it's like now you've you got maybe JT Jordan Max and another guy on a team over in the states and you're like okay create these home venues and you're like you're starting to see maybe how this could potentially come together down the road but I see potentially the issue being the live golf players keep talking so much about how they're so invested in live golf and I think one of the main reasons why is they don't want to lose a spot they don't want to lose a spot being a captain they don't want to lose a spot and getting all of the equity I think the more they talk the thing up because they're playing that side of the coin of like okay you know I'm listening to both sides like where's the best place to play for me but if you were you right like isn't it smart if you've already made the jump it's like why would I ever not be hyping this up because I don't want any of the PGA tour player guys coming in and and sharing that equity in some way shape or form it's like they're gonna be on Brooks's team right like that's like I'm starting to like see it from that eye it's like if this starts to come together and these guys are playing in and some type of team format down the road which I don't know if it'll ever happen but that to me is like something of like where are these tour guys gonna settle in on all that too so that's just another hypothetical to throw at you well it's that one's really interesting because I thought about that a lot is like how many of these guys just immediately get ditched and then you spent it it's it's just there's so many parts of this that are fascinating you know if and when this does come together because you know I just can't I can't see it being the case where if you're I mean cliques a bad example because I think that the first thing Greg Norman would do would be like Martin thanks for the years of service like this is no longer your franchise we're giving this to Rory yeah it's not Rory Shay Lowering whoever they want to be cliques and we're gonna play it some course in Ireland and that's gonna be their home venue and like you made it you made it you know we made a nice chunk of several million dollars doing what you did and now you're gone like I just I mean I don't see how it is anything but that but it is definitely I think there's something to what you're saying to of just the you know they made the bet on live and there was like this weird sort of dance that happened last year around the the merger that wasn't really a merger where everyone's like oh let's kind of play nice for a little bit and talk about the possibility that you know how this could come back together and now it's like we've almost kind of pushed back in another direction where everyone's tired of it being a part but they're not willing to say as many nice things about the other side because they're just like this is just you know I'm getting fed up that they're not making concessions to bring this back together and vice versa you know what I mean yeah I don't know where we're gonna be in a couple years now it's it's hard to really predict I know you and I just want the best product for the game of golf and whatever that looks like we're all in for but it's just oh god it's just a feeling it's a long way to go there's a long way to go and on a similar related in a way topic to the best players in the world and you know the knock-on effects of world ranking points and what tournaments they're getting into did you see the latest Taylor huge comments the the the shortest Taylor huge comments but the latest Taylor huge comments this week and what did you make of those it just doesn't make any sense man I should probably explain here and say that there was a a smash press conference where I was all four players of the podium of course Captain Brooks Kepka Taylor gooch Graham McDowell Jason co-crack and there was a question that was directed at co-crack McDowell and gooch that was just basically like hey you are you guys gonna try to qualify for us open the open championship Jason and Graham went into detail about their plans to qualify on how they're gonna try to get it done and Taylor's was I'm not I'm just talking to do it it just doesn't it just doesn't make sense right like I mean you know to me yes of course it does not make sense I think there's part of it that just is you could say any number of things about and this is we've talked about this in the podcast as well where it's like there are certain things that if Taylor Gooch has a family and kids and and you know if part of this whole thing as DJ said on full swing is it's more money and less work and so I'm not going to sign up for more work because the whole point of going was to do less work if for Taylor Gooch that was the idea was I don't want to travel the far flung places of the world and play all these different tournaments to try to increase my world ranking kind of like what Joaquin Neiman did and in a successful bid to get into the masters you know I don't want to do that so I'm not going to do that that's fine but at a certain point in time to me it's like this is kind of your job dude like and if you want to do the best version of your job that is playing in the majors and so the decision you made was a gamble in some respect like just like any part of playing golf is a gamble you know because if you stop playing good you lose your job like that that happens more on the tour on the pj tour than it does on live so if part of the gamble that you made going to live was you weren't going to be these majors and now you have to qualify and these majors you just you got to go do it man like it just comes off really petty to sit up there and be like I'm not you know when when asked about it I still think that gets you it definitely doesn't get you any closer to being in the events through qualifications you're not doing it but it also doesn't get you any closer to getting an invitation from these governing bodies because you just come off as a little you know petty and whiny at least to me I've never worked in the corporate world but I imagine the situation of like a young hot shot like coming into like his boss's office and like showing off like hey here's my sales like this is the promotion I deserve here's what I've learned in life is you don't deserve anything you have to go prove everything and guess who the players are that have proved things on the live golf tour and have gone outside of the live golf tour to prove that I deserve to be in major championships now guys like john rom all these guys that were exams like they've proved that they deserve to be in major championships look at his record this record is not good in majors if he was a guy that was consistently in the top 10 in the majors and always contending never missing cuts but the reality is he was batting 50 percent making cuts in the major championships in his career I know he's a different player over the last couple years and he's played fantastic or we're not I'm not discrediting how well he's played over there because I know how good he is of a player is and he's a friend of mine as well so I feel even even more so talking about just how Joaquin Neiman is the prime example of a guy who yes he wants to be in the majors more than anything it's so does Taylor but what he's done is he's gone he said you know what what I need to go do if I go up to the Aussie PGA or the Aussie Open and I show up and I win it's going to have to continue to turn heads and say you know what this guy is winning not only on the live golf tour but he's making an effort to play in more sanctioned official world golf breaking events to try to earn his way in if he gets close you know what we'll bump him over the edge and that's what a good boss does that's what these majors would have done but if you're not going to show any effort you're going to say you know what this is good enough for me like you should give me and it's like that's you know what you signed up for so I don't like the pettiness and I 100% think Taylor Goode should be in the major championships so in the same note I'm saying this but also it's like hey this is the world in which we live in right now and and you don't deserve anything 100% and like to completely be fair to Taylor it's like one we don't know what his life looks like outside of golf and it made his beat decision he's making like hey I'm he could just be completely at peace with the fact that he's not playing in majors and he's saying this is a decision I'm making either way and that's fine you know and he may not even be trying to be petty by saying I'm not you know in sort of the Kurt fashion that he delivered that line who knows I don't want to project too much on what he's what you know what is actually going on in his brain and outside of his professional golf world it's just it's just strange like I just think that it's you know it you never know how a little bit of effort would come across to some of these governing bodies you know and if he was willing to kind of just say hey like this is a decision they made and just maybe you maybe try to just find a line that sounds a little more humble yeah and some of the things he said you just never know how that will come across because to your point he's absolutely good enough to play in all these major championships good enough to be a one and done pick for one of us as well i would i would a thousand percent consider him to be a one and done pick of line so i think that goes to say it's like yeah i think you should be playing in these majors but you just go play thirty six holes like how hard is that to do like it's just it's not difficult Graham McDowell's doing it in like i mean come on yeah like doesn't like Jason Kocrack has a young family like that's the thing is like i'm trying i'm really trying to give Taylor the benefit of the doubt in a lot of the situations but unless there's something going on here that i'm totally missing like the play does not come off great and he's made so much money over there it's a joke well let's let's actually let's kind of go down that road because this is another thing that we talked about where you're like i'm just curious lifetime what some of these guys have made and so this is i found sort of this is like before their contracts of just like selling their company before going over to so so this is this is through live golf Miami so what you have to factor in to these numbers is adding in the Adelaide event and the Singapore event that just finished so we can even do some like a back in America. Taylor made a million dollars in Singapore so add a million to that so so DJ is is first all time because he won the 2022 individual so he's earned 53 million plus whatever he earned the last two tournaments so you know he finished top 10 in Singapore earned a little bit more so he's got 53 million plus you forget there's not as many events as well you know like i think that i keep thinking like when i see them make as much money as they do that they're playing a full pj tours schedule but they're really playing about you know three four seven right yeah exactly if that if that yeah and and so it gets watered down like a little bit but still but you get like that that bonus team kicker as well where and and and who knows who knows the finances behind that because you know we've seen reports that it that the players don't actually get their a full like quarter cut of that like can we structure differently for captains or if there is some sort of sponsor that has an ownership interest in the team or it could be reinvested into like team infrastructure stuff i i don't know the specifics but it may not all go to them but still that's like a little kind of nice little hey i could play terrible this weekend but he can make a bunch of money finished on the podium and i and i get a pocket that so um so yes the taylor is second all-time earnings 52.4 million so now it's like 53.4 or if it's 2.5 really so it's it's so much money uh kim kim smith third all-time uh 33.6 and then so 33.6 those two guys are 20 milli i i imagine that's where the cockiness comes from it's just like dude i've made 20 million dollars more than the the next best guy on our tour and and kim just picked up another 1.8 this last weekend um and i i'm pretty sure ripper won these each these last two events so you got a factor in that money too so he's probably like north of 35 million uh with 25 events played that speaks i mean that's but does that not just speak to how much how well the taylor's played over there yeah i'm absolutely i mean we're we're here talking about i think i think this was brooks fourth win on the live tour i believe is what they said i think so and he's fifth on well he'll he'll move into fourth all-time on the money list he'll he'll nudge above brand and grace who was fourth but uh you know so he won four million here so he'll he'll actually be just close can how much is brand and grace won over there brand and grace is made 28.6 million not include the last two weeks i mean talk now that that guy is that's poster boy for like the guy who who went on a whim not a household name great player but just not like not a big man dude he's a major player man let dude was always like making cuts in the majors and then like contending on yours you know right but like but never in your wild extremes right because you said he's gonna through his first 28 events on live he's gonna he's gonna make effectively a million per event if you average it out i mean that's that's unreal that's unbelievable i mean every time he's every time he's average a million dollars every time he's teeted up on live but so it's unbelievable but yeah brooks will jump ahead of him brooks should have right around the same amount as can maybe slightly less maybe in like the 33 million range um when all said done from the last two events so he's played 28 events and and earned uh and earned yeah like 30 33 34 so yeah i i mean i the point you're making which is like yeah you probably can feel like i can say whatever because you know in Taylor Gucci's case like i made 53 million dollars like yeah at this point if the majors don't want to let me in cool i'll just go make another 53 million and then i'll have like a hundred million so i mean i i guess it's it's all depends on what's important to you in life and money is very important i'm not over here like i think legacy is like it's a it's a cool thing it's a great thing but money's really really important they're making a lot of it over there can you uh give me the rest of the top 10 and then also give me the bottom the board yes yes so you're not and then again this is just all we're two events behind but this just gives you a rough picture peter uline sixth on that list god what a move for Pete come on 25 mil 25.3 he was he was going back and forth between the corralis and Puerto Rico like uh when i when he had when he had got the uh the move over uh he was never on the platinum to we're at the pg to where uh he was always like just playing that this is the regular schedule so that's 25.3 through 27 events and i just played 29 let's go Pete i love Pete right Bryce in his seventh uh 25.1 mil through 26 and so you know i had a few more he's played 28 now but you know right around that 25 mil mark then Patrick Reed is eight uh with just shy of 25 mil uh Joaquin Neiman is ninth with uh 22.3 mil uh and Sergio Garcia is 10th with 20.2 million can you can you can you pick out one name as well that sticks out like towards the bottom like maybe not like towards the the back um of the last guys that have uh that have done the worst but maybe a name that's like man do they have not played well over there i mean i think the one that it's it's it's almost the most obvious one is like paparese is 15th on that money list with 16.4 million dollars wow and like and like has not played uh it's not like he's played terrible golf but ever so i feel like every time during it on it's like oh there's paparese you know putting up a big number and and and and he'll you know he's played well situation that's that's playing well though oh okay so you're saying obviously like really really bad like a top like a more of a player that was a big signing that guy that hasn't performed sorry i didn't but that's the opposite end of the spectrum got it yeah so okay so i mean at the very wow i mean they so they have everybody on this list so i need to kind of i need it just to you need to filter just a little bit like who's played who's like he's an event threshold yeah exactly i mean i'd say um i mean my favorite is always c1 cam who played who played who was 50th all time on the money list who played 21 events and made 4.3 million dollars and and that guy was like firing 80s left and right like nobody's business dude was just a and walked away with a nice little chunk of change so good for you c1 i mean mark commerce right above my 4.5 mill but i would say a guy who i mean you could you could you could i mean i know it's later in his career but phil has only made 5.8 million wow 27 events played that's pretty bad he i mean he's just on the back end of his career he even said that this week i mean it's like he's just i don't see that yeah you know it wouldn't surprise me with phil because he's always been rumored to want to do tv i think they're going to sign him to just about buttload of money and he'll just be the main analyst over there and he'd be great at it he'd be fantastic at it i mean phil is such an entertaining he would be well that's why i'd it wouldn't surprise me at all i mean i i think i think phil moves into some sort of business advisory like some he will have some non-playing role live whether he's like a non-playing captain of a team whether he's where he's a part of the broadcast he will be involved in some way shape or form there without a doubt but tv's a great call you know i mean that booth right now is orlo white um dave ferriti i think don boolei like there's sort of a mixed bag in there suan hing but i mean you know you stick phil in there with orlo you know and dave ferriti i mean that that's a really really good booth so really good booth yeah that's a good shot yeah uh we're gonna book bonk that let's bookmark that and and we've now we we've we've just i don't know how many minutes we did we just got lost in the career earnings of lib but it's interesting i mean it really is interesting to like you know you you hear like the the funny money you know kind of thrown out there but then it looking at a hard and fast list of you know tally it all up you're like wow has a lot of money for not a lot of golf okay uh one one other player just want you to check out i'm just generally kind of curious and on how he's played bubble watson bubble watson was also down there for me in that you know phil category ish now he missed a lot of time because he had that injury that was coming back oh he did oh yeah it was like the latest one yeah i think that was the latest start he was like a non-playing captain for ranchos that's right so he's only you know as of live miami he'd only played in 19 events and he'd earned 7.1 million so a little bit more than than phil but again like kind of feels like he's you know he's not playing his best golf anymore and that's okay a lot of people are bubba fans and that's why they go watch them over there but the big the big thing charlie i think is gonna be after this year so which i mean they the big quotes today was that that uh greg norman was told by yasser is that that this live golf it will continue on past when he when he dies and through the rest of his family i'm like okay that's a little open-ended but i'm just kind of wondering you know like with these a lot of these contracts are up at the end of this year so there could be i think a ton of movement um with what we've kind of known with live golf of like all who all the players are and it may be a good amount of them will get re-signed but i tell you what there's i think they're going to be aggressive this offseason if especially if they don't try to come together to get the pj two or players involved at keybank we know a small moment like whoa my kids got a serious backhand can lead to an even bigger question like tennis campus how much and that's the type of moment where we'll meet you to help you build a savings plan for expenses big and small so your money can make money my cows that sound sounds like match point sounds like love we could serve up tennis puns all day for every financial need we'll meet you in the moment keybank opens doors keybank member fdic business it's all the things that keep this world turning and behind every one of these companies is a partner helping to keep it all moving it's why the local flower shop and your favorite pizza joint the startup in the stadium hospitals and hotels banks and restaurants nationwide all choose the advanced network cyber security solutions and round-the-clock trusted partnership from comcast business the company that powers more businesses than anyone else comcast business powering possibilities restrictions apply call or visit comcast business dot com to learn more you're saying you're saying that the the the the lives gonna be trying to be aggressive with paying those guys to resign you know i think i think they'll be more aggressive towards the pj tour players because they know because they know a lot of these live golf players are just like they're less raw like please like i'll take i'll sign for nothing just let me play like these contracts i i think there's a lot of players that are sitting ducks that are hoping that pj tour players won't come over yeah that's that's a really interesting one because i could see that in a lot in real ways like i i think it'd be the smartest thing ever for the pj tour to when these contracts expire just let all these marquee names walk back no penalties like i know that's a such a tough pill to swallow for the guys that remain loyal to tour and i just hope that they're they're creatively finding ways to compensate for that where they're like all right we're giving you know like the list that came out of all those sort of solidarity payments made to the guys that have been on tour forever you know that the payments to tiger and rory and jt and jordan and all those guys like i know i know that you know whatever it was like i think we said jt was like 30 million dollars so like that was like you know we're we're talking about on course earnings here which are different from the contracts these guys all reportedly made but that 30 million effectively would put him at fourth or fifth on the live career earnings list without having hit a single shot so that's more something right now and now you know we're talking about you know cam smith i think they'll offer support in the hundred million range so cams actually made 135 million dollars there instead of just you know the 35 that he's earned on the course but i'm my point being that i think that the pj tour players would be smart to say as tough of a pill as it might be to swallow if we let these guys come back and we create some structure for them to come back we could gut the live tour because all those guys have made all their money and so they can go fill up their bank accounts and feel like i don't need to do the security thing anymore now i want to play real competitive golf again at the best venues in the world with against the best players in the world and i come back on this tour and you know and and now i have no penalties so there's it's not like there's any barriers coming back off to go play the corn fairy tour or whatever i think that would be the the most the smartest strategic business move from the pj tour instead of saying if you guys want to come back there are penalties involved you know because then you just you're hurting yourself you're hurting your ability to to hurt your competitor you know i want to be a part of the list making of like who gets like who's the last guy that doesn't get like the full exemptions into let's say the players or whatever the the mark or just say the signature events um like does does the tour make taylor go qualify and go to that would be that would be amazing they're like taylor you you come back with exemptions but you have to do a year of us open qualifying like you have you have to do it like it's like it's like a it's like a uh not a hazing ritual but just like something like that where it's like hey buddy like you have to go do this thing i'd be hilarious it'd be a be a really hilarious fit i mean even in the like you name the 10 guys on the on the top of their points and excuse me career money he's like dude like pretty much all that top 10 maybe give or take another couple guys it's like those are your dudes bring them back let them play let's let's get those guys back on the uh signature events and then like funnel in kind of whoever you want throughout the uh the the lower tour which is what i hope would happen yeah and honestly as you say that like that's exactly if you took the money list right now so dj gooch cam branny grace like you you knew there were going to be certain names in there they're like oh that's that's a weird one or like not the most marketable one but they played well and they deserve it so like branny grace probably is one of those brookes kept up peter you line probably one of those brison patrick reed walking neem and sergeo gracia there's your top 10 right and then you probably go through and you cherry pick a few names who just showed up so they haven't had time to earn but obviously obviously you're letting john ron come back yeah you know um i'm sure i mean phil would actually be a really interesting case you know given all these done to burn bridges but you know terel hatton probably gets to come back in some form or fashion um you know maybe there are pathways created for young stars that you want to kind of do right by like calip serrat or guys like that but i think that you know that's that's i mean i just gave you i mean let's exclude calip serrat i just gave you 12 names and you're really not missing too many from that list you're definitely making some cuts but like you're not missing too many man it's just like so crazy like so let's say the pia tour says we're gonna go another year without you guys coming back and what's gonna happen there's gonna be so much pressure and i i think the live strategy from that standpoint is okay they've they've stopped working hand in hand with the official world golf ranking to try to get their tour sanction to be able to get points we read about it this week as well so like what are the only things they can do it's like okay well we can just buy more players that's the one thing that they can do is they can buy more players and then the other part of it too is that i think unless the pj tour changes to a structure in which there's less events and their their weeder boards make sense they can wait on just the just wait out the ratings because the ratings have been the one thing that the live golf tour can look at and be like all right you need us but let's say they re or the pj tour says all right we're gonna remodel our whole structure tour when you turn on the pj tour you're gonna recognize these guys on the leaderboard and then that would be the strategic advantage for the pj tour side and which now it's like all right if we can keep our players happy with the equity we have strong weeder boards less events now these players are in a tough position over at live that like john rom who's hoping that the pj tour caves and have and brings him back so that he can double dip but he's in contract with the live golf tour he's still got to play a full schedule so he's going to play what he thought would be like patrick reid mentioned or whoever it was that they're going to be playing less over there now these guys if they're going to want to play all of these signature events and the live golf tour events which they have to play in they're going to be playing double yeah yeah it's you know it's really interesting all the cards that you know it it's almost like there are there are several things happening like that they're there's obviously the negotiation the discussion that you hope is happening in good faith between you know live and really the pif and the pj tour and and ssg and and you think it's happening i don't know if it's happening well i'm i'm just saying for the sake of discussion like you like think that that's happening but then you know underneath that is both those sides individually creating their own contingency plans for like like here's the discussion we're having joint that's like what does look like when it comes together and then you know separately it's like how can we go and undercut that other guy as much as we possibly can to make them fail to make them to kind of bring them to their knees a little bit so like we can make it be whatever we want this negotiation i mean the whole the whole thing i even feel bad you know we've gone this deep in the episode and i'm sure there's so many people that are so tired of of hearing about this and they're just fatigued and they want golf be back together and and that's where we are too but i think that you know you kind of you got to have the discussion especially after weeks like this because it because it's just if if anything this isn't like us you know having some sort of deep dive of how to solve live or this or that it's just looking at this past weekend and saying there's got to be a better world of professional golf than that where you have a meh course with an even more meh leaderboard and then you have a star stud of leaderboard playing in the middle of night on a course nobody cares about in a weird team format with three rounds it's just like it's the least efficient and and the least fan friendly model that could possibly exist and quite frankly it's like it's tough to even do a show on it because it's so disjointed you know you're like what how do we even talk about this and so like if you're out there and you've listened this whole thing and you're like i'm just so secure about this like we're just as sick of like this being the reality and i hope that we get to a better place so it's like we're coming off a week where it's like yeah we we're heading into the big signature event before the major and we're and we're coming off a really cool team event that combined pj tour and live players in a really unique way in a in a home game setting whether it's in Australia or South Africa whatever that would be great but that's obviously not where we are right now so if if uh if Arnold Palmer was still here and i sat at a table with him and had to explain to him what the with professional golf looks like right now he would be like what the hell happened yeah yeah right what do you mean what do you mean genre was in at Bay Hill this year wait wait where was he he was in he was in uh he was in Doral wait what i mean it would i and i you know it's so interesting because i think i think part of that discussion traces into efforts that you know there there were numerous breakaway tour efforts made by the star players in the game because they felt like they were worth more than the opportunities that the current you know the existing tour is creating for them so it's actually like not a unique thing that's being done it's just the way that it's torn the game apart and in all those previous iterations of the breakaway tours like those tours never really came to fruition and it's a significant way it was leverage and bargaining chips and then it was like okay let's fix this tour but like this is the one this is the time where it broke and it didn't and it didn't work that way and now here we are doing this so the tour was never never going to change as fast as as uh as Phil Mickelson wanted it to change and i think it's all changing for the better for the bj tour i know it sounds absolutely hysterical for me to say that but they were never going to change um so the purses are really good right now these guys are making a ton of money and is it absolutely miserable miserable right now yes but i mean shoot some of these events like i don't even know what they made to the bar in this week but these guys are overpaid right now for the fields so i mean take a while to last yeah uh Taylor Pindrith earned 1.7 million as a winner share uh this week the Byron Nelson so overpaid based up there probably what the ratings are going to be yeah i can't imagine it's going to be good rating this week um so to kind of that brings us back actually the pj tour and where i think it makes the most sense it's kind of wrap up this week's episode and then as we played ahead of the Wells Fargo it is just first of all reviewing our one and done picks so smile you have to congratulate you on you picked a canadian i think you picked a canadian that was celebrating on the 18th green after the last hole was played just so happened that he was celebrating watching his buddy win mckenzie Hughes i believe had a t-41 for 12.214 FedEx got points so i mean to to be fair to you and i'm curious if you have uh you know other thoughts or comments you'd like to make but like i think the weather just made this a really wonky week because it was art we're already coming in and we're like it it's this it's wide open off the tee it's you know even though you're hitting a lot it's a long course you're getting a lot of long irons and you're doing it off of the most perfect toys you could perfectly hit it you know possibly hit off of and you're getting in the greens and like okay they're taking on a bunch of rain they're soft so like you can you know hold greens much easier so it's like it should just theoretically be easier for anybody to to you know strike the ball well enough to just make it into a putting contest and i guess you know that's why i like the strategy behind your mckenzie Hughes pick but i just it almost it feels like in a way it almost made it too easy to bring everyone else into it yeah just the best players are having and you don't have the best players there either so and that's nothing against all the guys there there's tons of amazing players but it's it's just where we're at right now that you know the Byron Nelson that's probably the weakest that field has ever been it was the second worst rated field of the year behind our just full field yeah our own before mexico open you're not full fields not even the correct term like like a non-opposite field like if you remove the two opposite field events second weakest field the year behind mexico open yes yeah which jake nap almost won both so credit to our boy it's nap time i was cheering for jake just didn't get it going today but one jake seeing point while there that's a perfect course wrong right like subalmer that you know can create a bunch of birdie eagle opportunities for himself and i think this year has been really great for him obviously one in mexico but i think the events just throughout the year it's been a good learning curve for him to figure out what's the next steps for him to be able to compete on golf courses in which he's got it still like driving far but like rained it in hit fairways uh to be able to kind of like open up the rest you know keep keep his strength this strength which is his ability to hit the long ball yeah i mean and i jake are probably the first person to tell you that like the way he played on sunday in both the event he won and the final group this week like was probably not his best stuff like he scraped it around on sunday the mexico open you know it with some big misses and and was able to win that golf tournament and so i'm i'm sure he tell you that he'd like to play better on sundays in general but i mean the fact that he's putting himself there you know mexico open you give yourself a four-shot lead going into sunday you have a little bit of of you know room to play with so um so yeah so so my one and done pick was of course cebu came he had a t13 good pick good pick just a solid you know good pick just like you know knowing your home you haven't got any food yet and you're like i got bbgo dumplings in the freezer so like let me just go let me go hit some bbgoes uh that was that was uh cebu got me 53.143 uh peddex cup points so i i that the season total now is i have 2138 points and some change you have 1,669 points really impressive for both i mean you're just behind scotty chef for uh and i'm like top 10 in the peddex cup so i can't complain yeah you might need to be top five i have to go back and cross reference it but uh but that that leads us to a signature event where there are more peddex cup points on the line and one in which scotty will not be playing which is interesting so this goes back to your something you discussed on the show which was that you would not be shocked to just see scotty play the heritage and just wait until the next major to tee it up i we've not seen anything public from scotty or meridith as to the arrival of the baby i believe this was supposed to be the due date this weekend so i don't know when we're gonna find out maybe part of the reason why he didn't enter the enter uh the Wells Fargo was because uh you know that the the due date got pushed a little bit but um but yeah so we have a scotty-less signature event which really opens it up to some other other challengers uh to to you know to bolster us in the one and of course but also just kind of pick up some form heading into the second major of the season so i mean do you do you want to chat a little bit about this field and and who you like here or do you want to delve into you is your pick to make for one and another suite well i mean the field has got what we've been seeing in all the signature events there's nothing really to get into it it's we're kind of down the road now wow we've had i don't know what's what's it was pebble beach we've had um what else we had signature events it's just number four it feels about uh pellet beach heritage and i mean i mean it depends on how you you know like century was technically one but it was it was not like uh standalone signature event you know in terms of signature events i i think it was um i think it's just uh no no uh api api as well um what else am i missing i think i think i'm missing players players player but again players one of those weird ones it's like not uh it's like it's a standalone thing okay it doesn't matter it doesn't matter we're i don't know i'm sorry if get you off topic there but i i feel like there's so many players now that i've been kind of like saving for this time of the year it's like i got some i got some guys that i'm like ready to to burn the card on and i i feel like for me this week it just makes way too much sense to pick a player that had a ton of success here and i'm i'm taking worry yeah it's a great pick it just it just feels it feels right like i'm i'm willing to bet more that he's gonna win it well as fargot versus winning in bahala it's like the pressure is like less on here so it's like let's see he's gonna be so down and so ready to go like get his game ready before bahala so like i'm gonna bet on that right no i i i think it's a really good pick and i think it's um it it's it's one that if you're looking at strategy like you're really trying to get deep in the weeds of this one and done strategy like for playing for FedEx Cup points you know the signature event like this is a great way to make up so it of course it's not a major but it's not far off in terms of the point distribution so i i like this pick a lot um i am god this is an interesting spot to be and i'm trying i'm trying to kind of figure out which way i want to go here because i on the one hand i think it's one of two players you got to pick okay uh and i will name those one of two players after you don't pick them i i'll say i'm kind of in between windum and max homa those are the two players so i'll add that how about that yeah i mean you know i i i don't want to like i just i just feel like here's accused of my line of thinking is that um windum has been the second best player on tour this season i think it's fair to say other than scottie sheffler right and so to me it's like he's the fending champ here you know it's finally a scottie-less field in a and a top tier event he almost won the eight or he won the 18 t what am i saying but he was like a three round you know 54 hole short in a van because of weather but like you know it feels like you know pick back up right where you left off and you win one without scott in a field it should just be a slam dunk but max is you know also is one the wells far around the past although i think he did he went it here he went it when they moved to eagle point no no he wanted he wanted uh he wanted wells uh quail hollow because he wanted quail because brian harman won at uh eagle point was was brian harman eagle point i was getting my ears mixed up there um and a guy that like is is i feel like is is about to have us really solid turn a form here soon but the thing i'm weighing against is like do i want to use both one of those guys and another major but we just we had this whole discussion where we just talked about how this is equivalent so oh man um i think callee yeah i think i'm gonna go i think i'm gonna go wind him here that's only going to park it's the right it's the right pick um there's considering max plenty of plenty of other guys that we we could have obviously taken i think uh if you're looking down the board um i think a player when i was really considering and if if he was probably in maybe uh earlier season form in which he was in i would have taken sam burns uh he he played better than anybody at that yes president's cup made more birdies than anybody and i i just really feel like he's it's a perfect course fit for him i think sam burns is a great pick to win the wells farther this week yeah i i love that one as well i that was the the first place my headwind was like let's go back to that president's cup and see if there are guys there that that you know could you could be nice to kind of plug in there i mean obviously the entire american team had success but like who else on that team kind of pops you know that there could be a good pick here and sam was obviously you know sky did not play great that week it was hand was kind of carrying him for a large stretch of that you know i have a question too and and i i i assume that quail and i should know this because i played but i think it's all vermuda greens for the tournament but for the president's cup i know it was vermuda and and during may everything's over seeded wall to wall so there is a difference in a bit yeah and how that course plays it plays longer in the springtime than what you played um during during the president's cup which is vermuda jumpy wise and probably much firmer and faster so i think it's a totally different golf course and maybe you can kind of throw a little bit of those results out the window but cam young to me this seems like his week as well for a player that has had a great year a lot of top 10s and it's been right there it's like cam young when you're gonna break through is this your week that's a great call actually i've just a guy that you know perfect fit do perfect fit played here in the president's cup do for a big win um you know almost in some ways you know their parallels there to like we said this for so long about will's allotaurus and like then he wins a a playoff event unfortunately he also then has a back injury that same week that'll make some pull out of those playoffs and then you know he has to go through that whole process in the in the months and years you know following but you know just we're waiting for him to win an event and it's like this elevated stage with against the best players you know cam young's played well in those events almost one of the genesis years ago the one the walking even one in a really stocked field so this feels like yeah i i love this week is a breakthrough for for camp i i would be surprised to see cam young content of both of these next two events i think these two courses fit his game like really well i wouldn't be surprised if cam young wins this like if he wins this week i wouldn't be surprised to be when it like back to back like it once like you ripped the band aid off and the seal was open and the floodgates open for a player like him i see like wins and bunches and these are like this is the time of the year the schedule just makes sense like the golf course fits are perfect for for quail holland bahol at two courses i wouldn't like i mean it's just perfect for him and then i think about lu bigo berg and i'm like crap he's probably going to do the same so i'm like why am i not picking woo big ears there's so many great options this week oh and then two others i'd love to kind of get your pick your brain on a little bit is i mean to hit the gallows do for a smiley show bump so i know we like i know we like to hit the pga but again like you know guys really long yeah and then and then men woo i know men was not part of that president's cup squad for the international team but t-15 this last week of the cj cup um and i feel like he's do in the same way that we're talking about cam yong you know he's a guy that's going to break through and have a big win and you know looking for places like that do you like to hit their men woo uh at quail holland this week i'm just thinking a little bit about yeah i i think both places are like you have to be able to middle and long iron your way around both places because both golf courses are long they're both going to play along you have to stripe it like you have to be a really good mid-iron player um got a drive it far which i think both players do i i would probably say that um both have got to get their iron game like mmm it's they got both had to have like really good iron weeks but if they do they they totally could i i'm a little like i would say men woo's iron game has been the thing that's probably held him back the most and it's just his ability to kind of drive it in the fairway enough um talent's obviously there but i think just having that like consistency like we see from like max homa you know like dude his iron game is just like or i mean scottie's obviously the the guy we judge everything off of but we just i think i'm i'm wondering with like men woo's game like is there that one thing that can just like take him over over the edge for that one week it just seems like every week it's like just something's like a little off and nothing's like great right right yeah and just putting four good rounds together like we saw that in the players two years ago right where he was in that final group scottie and just you know had a rough day um you know but just stringing four solid rounds together where he goes low and then gets the thing done um so yeah wants to keep an eye on for sure uh and and i i think at this point i mean we we've covered a variety of different well we really covered one topic at length and then now delving a little bit in this here but just any thoughts on on what you think we're going to see from scottie we're going to do an in-depth preview of the pj championship and we're going to do it from luival uh from uh we're excited that we're still kind of finalizing our plans for our our pj championship week but we got some some cool places lined up some cool content lined up and really excited about and we're going to kind of delve into pj championship preview while we're live and on site there but just you know if you know not in the field this week i mean i don't think we have any concerns about scottie sheffler but do you think we see any no no rust whatsoever on scottie yeah i'm good i i think it's a good you and i know the dad life and we know how hard it is so i kind of um to turn away one week after you know having your first child so i i think there's so many great opportunities to look elsewhere other than scottie at the pga so i'm i'm already like just on looking at the live golf leaderboard which was just um crazy good it's like brooks capco winning it's like him him uh winning in singapore heading into a major it's like well all right so we know brooks is going to have a chance on sunday it's like who else is going to be there yeah without a doubt and i'm excited to kind of go in depth on that especially after seeing you know what i want to do is i want to look at the wells Fargo leaderboard against what we just saw in singapore and start mixing all those dance guns saying who who are we going to kind of dial in i mean i i'm hot on ludevig right now i think you know there are a couple of names we're kicking around so we will we'll be certain to do that on the back end of the wells Fargo leading into pga championship week but like that about covers for us tonight smiley uh you know bit of a bit of a change of pace this week but excited to kind of get back in the signature event swinging things and and then of course second major of the year so that's what we have for you we appreciate you spend the time watching and 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