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We have to start first and foremost with a very, very happy Mother's Day to your wife Francie, to my wife, Amanda, to all the amazing mothers out there who allow us to go play golf for multiple hours and hang with the boys while they watch the kids and do it with smile on their face. And also sometimes watch Rory McElroy absolutely lapping the field, Quail Hollow, on on Mother's Day. So we're very appreciative to them. But with that said, we have to just hit the air horns, sound the alarms, because the one and done here that was on live support is taking a big shot in the arm. Courtesy of your pick, Rory McElroy, six of our last fall for the show, Smiley, your comments. I just finally am happy that I saw the light again, you know, I think it was a voice talking to me a couple of weeks ago, and I think it started when we saw Rory winning Zurich. And I was like, you know what, the smile on his face and how happy was the karaoke after, you know, I think bounce it a step, you know, yeah, well, the bounce is kind of the bounce is never really left, but the bounce is back. But I think just he's confident in his mechanics. First off, I think that's one thing to talk about is how good he drove it, how good he looked over the ball, the swing looked amazing. But I'm just, I think it has a look at that Shane Wowery and the teams win that they had in New Orleans. And I just think he's playing the game right now just with looks, it just looks like he's having fun with it. You know, I think even when he got to the tee boxes on Saturday and Sunday and greeted Xander, Xander was just like, like ready for battle. And Roy's like, what's up, man, like looking like he was, you know, like good to see you. It just seemed like he was enjoying himself. And I think he played that way. He played free. And my goodness, I did not expect to see what we saw Sunday, which was a runaway victory by Roars. On the one and done aspect, some updates there. As we've been tracking in the 12 weeks since we started this pool, if you and I were players, if our picks were FedEx Cup players, the current FedEx Cup standings, big, big alarms here, it's been a big move in the standings because Scottie Shepherd are still first. That hasn't changed and probably will not change. You are now in second place in the FedEx Cup. You've surpassed me. You've got a lead of a couple hundred points. I am now in third place. So we're still there in the top three, but, but man, the one and done run, we're back. We're looking forward to some PGA Championship picks this week. Maybe maybe we could pull ahead of Scottie would be nice to see that. But in the rest of this episodes, we've a packed episode for you. We're going to talk a little bit about the Wells Fargo result and Rory and the implications for the second major of the year. But after that, you had an awesome conversation with Bob May, runner up to Tiger Woods at the 2000 PGA Championship in Valhalla. So that's going to be the middle piece of this sandwich of an episode. And then the latter piece of bread, we should call it, will be us rounding up on. For me, the Pepe Silvio web of what's happening with the PGA Tour policy board, transaction subcommittee, the whole prequel to the week of Rory, because it's all somehow comes back to Rory this week. So that's the kind of layout of the episode for you. But let's get back to Rory's win. And for me, I just, it could not have come at a better time to have a win like this because inject some intrigue back into a championship where all of us were kind of thinking, is Scott, like Scott is going to win the Grand Slam, isn't he? We have some reports on Bob Herrick, kind of soft reporting that baby watch for baby Sheffler might be over, the baby, you know, may or may not have arrived. It's not his news to share, he says. But we think the babies arrived and the Scotty should be in Louisville playing in the second major of the year. So we have that piece. But this to me, smiley, kind of reminded me, not exactly, but in a small way of where we were last year, where John Rom just was a bulldozer, the first, you know, quarter or third of the year. And we were just wondering how many majors he was going to win. And then Scottie wins the players and some other players start playing well. Windham Clark, you know, wins the Wells Fargo last year and some guys are in the mix. And it feels like Rory's win this week is a little bit of, okay, game on. This isn't just going to be a Scottie walk over every single week. Do you agree with that? Well, I think as we head to Valhalla, a place in which he's won the last PJ championship, I think, yeah, dude, all systems go for Rory about how to look at the weather next week. It started off last week when I checked the seven day forecast didn't look great, a lot of rain. It's gotten a little bit better, but still it just, when you think wet golf courses, you think Rory Macroy, I mean, look how high and long he was hitting his drives this week at Quail Hollow and what an advantage that would be if he's got the long and straight ball with the driver. But I think we can dismiss plenty of the live golfers that are going to have an opportunity to win this. But who knows what type of form Scottie's going to show up in as far as just his mental aspect of the game, which I think has been a reason why he's been on such an incredible run is that his processes and how he's been able to hit golf shots over and over consistent consistently and be able to make the pots he needed to. I personally don't see a Scottie win at the PGA championship. Okay. I really do think it's going to come from somebody other than Scottie. I have a pretty big group of guys right now, but I tell you what, at the top of that list right now, it's hard not to see one of either Rory, John Rahm or Brooks Kepka being one of those three guys. I love Lou Vigoberg as we discussed after the Masters, but I'm second guessing that a little bit after the WD this week with a knee injury. Not sure what the severity of that was, but it was just sort of a precautionary thing so we could feel like he was at 100% this next week in Valhalla or if there's something more serious going on there. As you mentioned, Scottie's the top of that odds board. He is, you know, currently four to one. I'm sure we'll have an odds update tomorrow Rory is, is plus 757 and a half to one. Then you got Brooks Kepka at 14 to one fourth on that odds list as of now is Zander Shafle at 16 to one and Zander on the one hand, I want here's what I want to do here is I want to go full prime first take here, Skip Bayless versus Steven A Smith. I want to know if your opinion on whether or not Zander Shafle has the clutch gene because here's my thing. Here's my thing with Zander is like if this was a member guest tournament, like I can pick any PGA tour player, it might be this guy. He hasn't missed the cut in two years. He is so steady like he's just, he's like a machine, but time and time again, it feels like he's in a position to win of, of marquee tournament and I get that Rory just ran away with it today and your Roy play phenomenal. No one was going to beat Rory McElroy today, but I just, I wonder what opinions you have on whether or not Zander Shafle can get it done in a marquee event or a major going forward. Oh, he 100% can. There's no doubt about that, but I mean, just his year, I didn't realize how well he has played. He's really, really good. He's at seven top 10s and 11 starts and he's at 10 top 25s and 11 starts. So the consistency is 100% there. And I really do think that is so important for, for any player, just feeling like every time you tee it up, that you're going to give yourself an opportunity. For Zander, I really do think we need, I need to go in a little deeper dive. I think Trevor said on the broadcast today that he's had two, excuse me, 754 whole leads and he's converted two of them now that's two for eight. So it'd be fun to go back and look and see how many, what he, what the scoring average was for him on those days and, and was it a situation like today where he just has had some terrible luck with players like Rory just, you know, lapping the field. So how many times did that happen? And I'll have to go back and do a bit of a dive there. But I think I've mentioned this a couple of times about Zander making the switch to Chris Como and trying to get a little bit more speed. You could see it. I mean, I know Rory was hitting it past him, but he was up there with him within 15 or 10 to 15 yards, which is really long. And his iron game is, I mean, I think he's probably the same iron's length as Rory. So he's got that aspect of his game. I know his putter didn't show up today, but I'm telling you that guy is going to win a major championship because he's got, he's got the consistency. He's got a very nice golf swing that's holding up under pressure and in major championships. And I, I personally think he's a top five putter in the world, I swear that out. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have him outside of the top five and with the potter. I just think his, his mechanics are so good and nobody puts a better role on the golf ball than he does. And it just looks the same over and over again. But you to your, to your point, does he have the clutch gene? Are they playing aggressive enough? I don't know right now because it's hard, you know, I think it's, I need to do a little bit of research on those 54 whole leads. Clutch gene, stroke chain, clutch gene suited that bears out because you know what he's really clutch at is finding your way to top 10. If he's, if he's 26 heading into Sunday, he'll finish sixth. It's, he is the goat at finishing top 10, but finishing first, not quite the goat. It's such an interesting thing because I think it is, you know, it's like he's the, the, the perfect, uh, argument centerpiece for, you know, stats versus like feel or gut, you know, where he's caught in this like middle ground where you look at all the stats and you're like, this guy is a machine. You know, he's right up there. Are you grouping him in with Can't Lay? Is this, is it, are you trying to do this right now? Well, I mean, I, I would like to me, like I would take him over in a pickum over Can't Lay. Okay. Gotcha. Every single tournament. I mean, and that's not even like, I don't think you can really make an argument, you know, given his recent form, you know, can't, can't lay is, is of course it is a top, whatever 20 player in the world, but I, I don't think there's any question you take Zander over him, um, right now, you know, for, for this major and just, you know, for the rest of the season until there's some massive change in form, but, um, but it's just so interesting. It's like for a guy that to your point, you look at all the stats and even the eye test too on the putting where it's like he just puts a good role on every time. There was just some weird stuff down the stretch and, and, you know, and we saw it with the, the, the short birdie putt he missed the players where he really could have had a chance. Um, on 17, you know, just stuff like that where it's like, it was just uncharacteristic to see him, um, make mistakes like that until it is characteristic and it's just the history is the guy that's just the best player that just can't get it done, you know, when he's under the gun. And I don't, I'm not trying to be unfair to Zander here because, you know, again, I think he's a phenomenal player and I think he's, you know, it, but it's going to take winning one. And I wonder if he's going to have to, because he's, he's one, he's one on the PGA tour. It's not like it's like that that's the obstacle. It's like, what does he need to win before he wins a major? You know, it doesn't need to, it doesn't need to win something in shorts. Like it would have been so perfect for him this week to win this event and then say boom, I got all the confidence in the world going into the PGA championship or even like, you know, the, the, the US Open at Pinehurst. I mean, that's, I just feel like that's the one that he that he has to win is just a tight, you know, exacting test, a US Open type set up and, and the PGA championship is more and more as it's become that in the last few years. So it would have been so perfect for this to be the sort of back to back build up for him to win his first major, but here we are again, you know, kind of asking what, and maybe he couldn't have done anything different a day because Rory played that good, but it's just, I think you have to ask the question with sander. No, you definitely do. You definitely do and but you can't knock this, this guy as far as his, how good he is at the game of golf. I mean, I think every single PGA tour player would take what he's done since he's turned pro. This guy, 100% is he has made a hundred and fifty cuts and he's had a hundred and seventy three starts. It is an eighty six percent clip as far as every time you tee it up, you're playing the weekend. I know he plays played in no cut events, but still that to me is, is just eye opening of how consistent he is. But we got to continue to see what sander can do in these majors. But I like that he keeps putting himself in position. One of these days, it's going to fall the right way. I love Austin Kaiser. I love his game. So it could be as soon as next week, the PGA championship, I mean, I wouldn't put him, put it past him to win on that golf course and I really think the US Open will be a really good course for him too. I think Pinehurst is an awesome track for him to potentially get a first major on just getting back to Rory quickly before we kind of wrap and toss to the spot may interview. I mean, this, I know this is just, it is just one week in one sense, but to your point, some good vibes coming off of dessert classic, you know, he's starting to play better and you know, he's trending these last few weeks. He's exactly where you'd want to be going into a major championship where he's won before. I mean, I just, I wonder if there's anything about his game, like what are the key indicators for you that tells you, hey, like this, this guy is, he's rounding in the form and, you know, what do you think the rest of the year looks like in terms of him against Scotty because I think to kind of take it back to where we started, a lot of people would just said, this year's a wash, Scott is going to win whatever he wants to tee it up. And I wonder if you feel like the rest of the year, especially in the major, it looks a little differently now that we're seeing some form out of Rory and does all that hinge on how he plays this week of a holla. Well, I think last year it was all the putter, you know, how many times did he hit such good shots on Sundays or Saturdays and major championships and just not be able to grab the tournament and be able to run away with tournaments when it seemed like he was hitting the shots to be able to do so. This year, the conversation hasn't been in as much about the putter. He's had plenty of really solid weeks with the putter, but you saw him mention earlier in the year how much he struggled with his iron game, go sees Butch Harmon has some new feels that I think have finally shown up and you could see it at set up. He just looks so comfortable. And I think there was a lot of left misses. So he's kind of found a way to get that out. I think the three he didn't really feel great about taking spin off golf shots as well, which is always alarming for a pro, especially playing in the spring time. I imagine this is when all of the the issues were happening early spring when he was really struggling to hit his numbers and when you're playing heavy wins and all you can really do is hit the club that is less that hits it higher up in the air gets affected more by the wind, hard to hit it pin high and he was having a lot of left misses. So I think it's maybe because we're playing at the type of the year now where you can hit those full iron shots doesn't have to hit as many three quarter shots or at least the ones in which he got 170 yards and you have five iron in your hand. So I think that caters to Rory as well, the warmer weather, the less winds. So it's the time the year in which we've seen Rory McRoy, you know, start tuning up plenty of the other years as well. And let me shoot just just wild how many times he's one to when when yeah, we just I mean, we're in a pretty incredible period of golf right now with Rory and Scotty and the Tigers still playing. It's just it's a lot of fun for a golf fan. If we can figure out how to mesh these two tours at some point, it is and we will discuss a version of that on the back end of this upcoming Bob May interview that we're about to tee up here. And also, you know, we're going to kind of further unpack this PGA championship at another live show of sorts. I guess it's sort of a taped as live show, but it is similar to the show that you saw us do in Augusta at T-bone steakhouse. We have a thing for steakhouses, I guess, because we're going to Malone's Louisville super pumped about that. They they've been really gracious to host us in their how what there is their Churchill downstream. It's like a themed room overlooking a bar. I think it's going to be a super cool backdrop. We have a special guest, which I don't know if we want to tease that guest or do want to wait until we confirm it. And if he if he has to back out, he said to do it another time, but he's what's put him in a 99% end, so might as well just tease it. So fat Perez will be joining us at Malone's in Louisville. Very excited about that. We're going to we're going to do our usual. We're going to preview the PGA championship. We're going to make our one and done picks, which I know, you know, now we're back on fire. We're excited about those. We're back. We're back. We're all the way back. We're going to maybe put together a little DFS lineup and kind of dig into some other things. I know you like to wind them early on, wind them kind of having a tough week. So we'll run through the full leaderboard there. We're going to go to next is interview that we've already recorded that we're super pumped about. Bob May, the took Tiger Woods to a playoff in 2000 of all hall at the peak of his power. So you and Bob went back and forth, reliving those moments, talking about some of the crazy bounces, crazy shots that were hit as part of that playoff. And then, you know, he tells you a little bit about the course and things to look out for and just a general preview of what you all can expect this next week of the second major of the year. So let's kick it over right now to your conversation with Bob May and on the back end, we'll come back to discuss the latest secret subcommittee that's gone around the PGA tour. Fourth of July, savings are happening now at the Home Depot. So get ready to go big with backyard barbecues for all your friends and family. Level up with the next grill for burner propane gas grill, now $199 from the Home Depot. This extra large cooking surface is perfect for super sized entertaining. Take your grilling to the next level at Fourth of July, savings at the Home Depot. How do us get more done? All right, guys, welcome back. We have Bob May legend from the 2000 PGA championship. This is, I'm really excited about this conversation, Bob. And first off, thank you for taking the time, and I just kind of want you to just set the scene for us a little bit, taking us all the way back to 2000. What was the state of your game heading into the week? Did you see a week like that coming? Well, you know, I've been playing well the, you know, all year kind of been playing pretty well. I just flew back from trying to defend. I won the British Masters in Europe in 99. So I went back to defend. I think I finished maybe 11th or 12th or something over there. And I flew straight from there into Valhalla. So I've been playing well. I had a couple of good tournaments that year, you know, I played well at the British Open. And I think I finished 11th, I played well at Pebble at the US Open and then finished second at Memphis. So I had some good play going and, you know, I, did I know that was going to happen that week? No, I wish I did, but I did, and the first round was, was just a round of 72. And then, you know, and then the next three days, obviously, 366 is in a row. Yeah. But started falling and, you know, before you know it, you end up there. So Bob, what was your first impressions of a holiday golf club when you got on the property? You know, a lot of times as a pro golfer, you kind of mentioned that you had been playing well, but a lot of times you just get those good vibes when you're at a place that you just feel like it fits your eye and that it just maybe just, it just good vibes are just present. Did you kind of feel that way about Valhalla? You know, I like the greens because they had a lot of like sections and you had to hit them all to this part of the green or that part of the green. And I always felt that I was a very good iron player. So I kind of liked it because you had to be in the right part of the green to give yourself a good chance. Man, I love that. And I, you know, everybody talks about the 2000 PGA Championship, mainly because Tiger Woods was, that's kind of when he was at the beginning of the height of his power going for his third major championship that year, nobody had done that since Ben Hogan talked to us just about how nuts it was at that time playing in an era in which Tiger Woods was at his peak. I mean, playing in that era, you know, with Tiger and his peak, you see how long, long these kids hit it now. And Tiger was basically that long back then and it really wasn't, but maybe two or three other players that can really hit it out there with them. Not only was he long, but he was extremely straight. Okay. So now you got long and straight. And then not only was he long and straight. He also had great irons play. He also had a great short game and great putting. So I mean, there wasn't a weak part of his game. You know, usually you could find something, but his game was so rounded and, you know, I always, I always, I don't mean to be brash or anything, but I always, like I said, I thought I was a very good ball striker and I could still remember a couple shots that he hit that just stick in my mind and that were very impressive. I mean, I can remember the two iron he hit on number 10. It was like 260 some yards and he had a two iron higher than I've ever seen anybody hit a two iron. It never left the pin. Now I've landed about a foot short and rolled back in the bunker, but still it was just, it was just a phenomenal two iron. I mean, it was, it was unbelievable man. And going into that, that final round, Bob, you know, I imagine that it's easy to start to question yourself and thinking, okay, how am I going to beat this guy? Was it difficult for you to going into that round to sticking to your game plan? And I imagine the distractions that day just had to be insane too with the amount of people that were cheering for tiger. Well, you know, going into the round that day, I basically told myself, we're going to play a different golf course. And what I meant by that is he's going to hit it so much longer than me that we're not even basically playing the same golf course. And I told myself, you know, you're good enough to shoot 66 the last two rounds, just play your own game and see what happens. Don't get involved in his game. One, you can't, you can't hit it near as far as he can, not even close with the driver. You know, from a six iron or maybe a seven iron down, I had a pretty strong angle of attack. So I delofted it. I could, you know, hit it pretty long with those irons, but everything else, he was going to be so much longer than me. So I just told myself, you know, play your own game. Don't worry about what's going on. Just, you know, play the golf course the way you want to play it. He's going to play it a different way and you'll see what happens at the end of the day. And that night when I went to sleep, I was basically just telling myself, you know, he puts his pants on the same way you do one leg at a time. So, you know, just, just go out there. You've worked all this time to have an opportunity like this. And I was always taught by Eddie Marrons and Tom Sargent to, you know, play one shot at a time, one hole at a time. And you're, my competition was the golf course and see how bad you could beat the golf course. If you could beat the golf course, you know, better than anyone else, then you'll win. But I can't, I can't control what Tiger was doing. You can't control what I was doing. So basically, the only thing I could control is my game. And in this era now, I think one comparable maybe figure would be Brooks Captain, major championships. And it just, his competitive edge and how tough he is in that he doesn't really make mental mistakes. And honestly, what he kind of has a little bit is that intimidation factor that Tiger Woods has. And did you feel any of that from Tiger in which, like, did he talk to you much at all that day? You know what? We talked basically the, the whole front nine back in the back nine, we both 30, 10, and we kind of just like separated like, okay, it's getting serious now. But you got to understand Tiger and I both grew up in Southern California. And Tiger was seven years younger than me. So I was very familiar with Tiger. And, you know, I respect his game and all that, but I wasn't afraid of his game. Was I in awe of shots he could hit? Absolutely. I was in awe. But like I said, I had more respect for the game, but I wasn't afraid of his game. Yeah, that's a, that's a great point. And, and just to kind of just talk a little bit about that, just mental edge. And I was watching a clip here earlier today in Tiger Woods reference that both of you didn't make a mental mistake the entire day on Sunday. And I think a lot of times guys that went up against Tiger, that was one of the things that they would do is just the mental side of the game. They would falter, but he credited you and how tough you were not only from the physical side, but the mental side. A lot of the guys might have looked like they kind of fell mentally. And I think the mental part that they did fell in is that they got in a slug fest with Tiger. You know, some of these other guys were bigger guys, longer hitters. And I think sometimes they got into more of a slug fest with them instead of just play in their game. And at that time, like I said earlier, he hit it so long, but he hit it so straight. And so you try to play up with them and, you know, we start swinging too hard at it. And they start going a little sideways. It didn't matter. He could swing as hard as he wanted and it was still going straight. And y'all both made those big pots on 18 for birdie to end up going into playoff. When you finish and went to the scoring 10, did you know that it was a three hole playoff? I imagine like you're so in the zone that, yeah, that's what I'm curious about. Well, no, we did, I don't think Tiger did either. I think we thought we were going back to 18, which I was fine with because I was kind of like, okay, all the pressure is going to be on him. He should be able to reach it into, you know, and I'll be the underdog. Like I have been all day and all the pressures on him, you know, on it. And when they, we saw the scorecards, they said, okay, we're going back to 16. It's a three hole playoff this year. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I already set my mind. I got ahead of myself and already set my mind. And we're going back to 18. And unfortunately that, you know, we didn't go back to 18, but you know, we went back to 16 and it was a long day. We were out there for five plus hours and it's a little humid back there and warm. But you know, I think we're both surprised. And then, you know, of course I didn't hit a good tee ball and then he made that putt that every pro am partner I play in pretty much runs and starts pointing at it and then they do that. And I said, you guys really don't realize that's where it all started was at that tournament and they're like, Oh, I just thought that was a tiger thing. I said, no, it all started at that time. On that hole on that hole too. Wow. And I can't imagine being there in that moment when he was running and pointing towards the hole. Had you had ever seen anything like that and playing golf over how many years it's been? You know what? I hadn't seen anything like that being that the ball hadn't been in the hole yet. And actually I thought it might just stop short on the left edge. I thought, Oh man, did he run too soon? Did he run too soon? But you know, under that circumstance and the amount of time that we spent out there that day and to finally him make one and get ahead because, you know, he started off one shot ahead and then I birdied the second hole and he bogeyed it. And then the rest of the day, it was pretty much I was ahead of him until he birdied 17. Yep. Yep. And then play off when you got to 16. You kind of mentioned your drive, but also where you were you left that ship shot. I just can't believe how good a touch that was. Was the lie as bad as it looked? Life is bad, but which actually was a benefit because you could get a tumbling. I could get a tumbling exactly. You know, you're a player. You understand. So I was bad, so I knew I got it on that first swell. It was going to, it wasn't going to have spin. It was just going to take off and roll. So it was actually, actually kind of a blessing in disguise. Wow. And then 17. So that I didn't remember this when I went back and watched this. So Tiger, he hit first, it looked like, and he hit it out to the right and that if you've never been to Valhalla, that side of the right side of the fairway really falls off almost a cliff down a cart path and he's going down there. I have no idea and no idea because it was the only drive he hit offline other than 18. I mean, but I mean, that ball was wide and long off. I thought he was going to be dead. I thought he was going to be down there by 14 T box. So you're thinking when that ball is in the air and this and where it lands, it heads the spectator stays on top to where is a chance to really just punch it on to the back of the green, hit it over. But if it ends up down the hill, you're probably thinking your head, man, if I just play clean golf, I probably win this thing now. Like the advantage is totally in my corner. Well, you know, as well as I do, if that thing goes down that hill, he's going to, he's going to work just to make five from there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that would be a hell of a five if he made it from, from down there. If it got down there, because he might have had to pitch out back into 14 fairway, then he had the strength maybe to get it up over back into 17 fairway. That's right. And, and then 18 too, I mean, those were weird, like drives, like where your ball ended up that lie looked terrible and then tigers looked like it was going to be in that left fescuer and how far back did his drive really go on 18? You know what? It's kind of funny because when we got done, I never saw tiger and myself. I guarantee you, I guarantee you tiger never saw what his ball did. We couldn't see it from the tee box because it went over the hill. And when I got done playing, I remember, you know, tiger went one way with the press. I went another way with the press and Ken Venturi goes, what do you think happened to that ball in 18? And I go, what are you talking about? And you know, they had the headsets on like, like you have on and, and I had my headset on with Ken Venturi and Jim Nance. And you hear over it over the headphones, stop it, Ken, don't, don't need to go there. And he's like, no, let's show it again. And he goes, so what do you think happened there? And yeah, Mr. Venturi pushed that issue of wanting me to see what, because we never saw that happen. We didn't see anything from the tee box because you couldn't see over the hill. What happened? And I was like, well, I have no idea what happened. And but you know, it was a weird bounce, because it went straight backwards, right? No. Right. Yeah. Okay. I'm just going to think that young, that young kid or young gentleman hit it through it, kicked it. Whatever. Okay. Where was it heading? Where was that ball heading? If it doesn't hit the bushes or it was headed in the bush or out of bounds. Right. Right on the other side of that bush. I did not know that honestly, if you've been there, that's a pretty steep hill. That's a real steep. I think it just, it just hit and it took off back down the hill. My whole thing is, you know, there was enough people around there to say that kid did, moved it or say something to an official. I think at that point of the day, everyone, there wasn't, there wasn't just sheerly tiger readers or Bob Mayrulers, or readers. They were people like, Hey, this is just a great, great tournament. It's coming out good. We're enjoying the competition. Yeah. Wow. I didn't. I mean, just those bounces on 17 hitting a spectator and then 18, the crazy bounce. These are all things that nice people didn't realize. When he, when he punched out on 17, you saw it and it hit the car path and jumped over the rough. Yeah. I was one rolled up, rolled up onto the green and then over it. Because how low it came up, I was like, Oh, that's not getting through the rough. And then hits the path and skips over just, they, I mean, you got to get lucky to win sometimes. And obviously tiger did. I mean, you tell me a guy that has a one tournament with a good break. Right? Yeah. I mean, you're exactly right. And 18. Gosh. That putt that you even hit, because you hit a wedge shot that took the right slope all the way down and the camera angle they used was fantastic because it showed just how severe that slope was. And for you to get that line and speed almost perfect. I mean, I can't imagine just how in the zone you were to be able to judge that putt so perfectly. No, you know, if my putting was really coming around right then and, and to, to pull that putt off and almost make it, it was a great putt. But you know, it was just not quite hard enough. Yeah. Gosh. It's so hard to regulation that I was afraid of the drugs. That's, that's, that's the old classic second guy. So, I mean, Bob, where we talk about Valhalla now in 2024, what are, what are the fans kind of expecting to see? Because it's been, you know, since Rory won the PGA and then everybody remembers the, the PGA that we've been talking about, you know, what's your favorite hole out there and what are fans expecting to see with Valhalla? Gosh, my favorite hole, you know, there's so many good holes out there in, in my personal opinion. You know, I like, I like 12, you know, where you have to, you can't hit a driver. You have to position it out there and then hit down to the green. I like the short hole 13. Yeah. And then I love, I love 15. I think 15 is a great hole on the back. 18 is a good, fun hole. You know, they have taken a lot of slope out of that green. At least when I was back there probably eight years ago, they took a lot of slope out of that green. But then we go to the front nine, I mean, two is a good hole, three is a, I mean, they're just a lot of good holes on that golf course. I'm the only hole I didn't like was seven because I couldn't take it over. I can, I couldn't take it over the, oh, yeah. Okay. Last green. You know, everyone else was the real long guys could go left and then go over it. I would go left and I'd have to hit out to the right a little bit. So that's, you know, in Vala too, it's, it's, it's a golf course that's produced some incredible television. So I, I expect to see, you know, some of those same types of moments that we've seen in the past years where there was the Ryder cup or the, the PGA in 2015. So, um, yeah, I think it'll be an exciting, exciting tournament for sure. Well, who are you taking? Gosh, I mean, oh man, I mean, how can you not, I mean, Scotty Sheffler, he just, he's amazing right now, right? Yes. Unbelievable. It's unbelievable, you know, uh, it's great to see him, you know, the media was kind of on him about his putting and, you know, you hear it enough and then you start questioning yourself and you could see that he was questioning himself a little bit. It's great to see the mental work that he has done to put that out of his mind and, and to be back to where he's at because it could get in your head for a while. And he, he was, he's strong enough and smart enough to, to just put a blind eye to it and say, you know what? I was just in a slump and I'm ready to go again and a, I mean, there's so many good young players. You can probably name so many people and they can all win it, but sure can. The storylines are great. You know, Jordan Spieth having a chance to, to, you know, win his career grand slam and then you have Justin Thomas being from Louisville, who actually I read was an eight year old at that, uh, PGA back in 2000 in the clubhouse. When you were doing your media, you didn't happen to bump into little Justin Thomas. Did you? No, I didn't. I didn't know about him then, but it was funny because I saw an interview that, that he was at that tournament. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. His dad being a PGA of America teacher and being from Louisville area. They were, uh, at that event and probably was the event that, uh, realized JT, he wanted to be a professional golfer, but, uh, watching Tiger Woods win and Bob, do you think we'll ever see Tiger Woods win another major? I would never met against him. Yeah. You know, I think if, if, if his leg was in good shape, where he could, he could walk and make it a, I don't see why not. I mean, he still hits the ball good. He could still do it all. I just think unfortunately his, his health is holding him back. Um, I think, you know, one, two rounds. I mean, maybe if he, if they gave him a cart because walking is really, it takes it out of you, especially if you have an injury like him, but the thing that people don't understand, he can still hit the golf ball. It's just not, it's not hindering him so much as the golf swing. It's the actual five miles of walking that you're doing up and down hills and things like that. So I, I think, you know, that's the only thing that's holding him from training wedding because I still think his game is good enough to win. And, uh, he still hits it out there with, with these young kids and with the injuries that he's had, you know, from, from the car wreck injury to just his back swinging to his knee, um, from swinging, um, it's pretty impressive. Oh, I know we all want to see Tiger Woods back in the mix and it would get a lot of butts on the, on their, uh, couch watching it on TV if he's anywhere close to the lead on Sunday, but I think we're in tune for a fantastic PGA championship and Bob, are we going to potentially see you in Louisville this, uh, this next coming week, or are you going to be watching it from home? Uh, I'll actually be watching it from home. Yeah, I was, uh, I didn't get any, uh, invitations or any gigs set up for out there, which I thought I might have, but I haven't. So I'll watch it. I'll watch it from Las Vegas or here in Encinitas. Oh, there you go. Uh, I imagine you would have gotten a hero is welcome. It's, it's, it's very odd, I imagine coming back and, and feeling like you're a champion because everybody knows who you are, but it's, it's one of the most famous and iconic tournaments in, uh, in professional golf history and I, I imagine it was a lot of fun to be a part of. Uh, maybe it was a great, it was great to be a part of it. You know, um, Kevin Terry said, you know, this is the greatest thing ever. And I was like, Oh, come on, it was, it wasn't like, uh, you know, uh, Watson and Nicholas at term Mary are, uh, you know, I, I can remember Nicholas and Ioke at the US open and he's like, Oh, no, it is. And I'm like, yeah, to me, those are the things I remember as a kid. Yeah. And Ken was like, no, no, it is. It is. And I'm like, okay. Whatever. And you know, I guess it was a pretty good moment because, you know, 24 years later, you and I are still, are still talking about it. Absolutely. I mean, that's what I remember as a kid as I said at the beginning of this interview. So thank you for creating a fun memory for me and thank you, Bob, for taking this time. We're super excited to relive some magic of a holiday this coming week. Well, thank you. And thank you for thinking of me and giving me a call. All right, Bob, we'll talk to you next time and, uh, and all the best and enjoy the time at the beach. See you buddy. All right. Thank you. Fourth of July savings are happening now at the Home Depot. So get ready to go big with backyard barbecues for all your friends and family. Level up with the next grill for burner propane gas grill, now $199 from the Home Depot. Its extra large cooking surface is perfect for super sized entertaining. Take your grilling to the next level with Fourth of July savings at the Home Depot. How do us get more done? Well, there you have it that was Bob May discussing the 2000 PGA championship with Smiley. A lot of cool stuff in there. What were your highlights of that conversation? Well, I mean, somebody's got to give Bob made a lovable, right? I think that was the big highlight for me is that he's going to be watching at home on his couch. I mean, I would have thought somebody would have had Bob come in his chalet and just kind of reminisce and talk about the old days. I was a little surprising to me as well because he's a bit of a cult hero. I can imagine in that part of the world. Although given what we saw and heard in that interview, you know, the birds chirping out there and beautiful lids and he is down in Southern California. Not a bad place to watch the PGA championship either. So I think wherever he is, we'll be thinking about him and super cool to hear you all discuss that at length. And also, good luck to him. I guess this episode is going to drop when he's playing his qualifier of USC and you're open. So let's see. Let's see the smiley show. Bump works on Bob. Let's say if I was Bob and you get the late invite, I would wear the exact like Saturday and Sunday outfits that I wore for the PGA championship in 2000. The pink hat just closed head to toe jet. That way everybody knows who I am. It's like, Hey, it's Bob May and it's like, yeah, I and I hope I sincerely hope that whatever Sunday read scripted for Tiger this week, it includes some rendition of the outfit he wore on Sunday where you walked that plane to the hole and pointed at it. That'd be pretty sweet. You know, Bob, this would be great. If he set up a little booth next to that tree on 18 and had like a maybe a little card out in front and said, uh, Tiger's ball was thrown, proved me wrong or something like that. That would be, that would be amazing. Yes. They're like hired a kid to kick it out of the, the, what did we decide happen there? Like the ball was thrown. Is that where did we land on that? Where we landed on that was that Bob felt like there were, Bob felt like there was no funny business, essentially just that there were too many people, too many spectators around at that point in the day and that the crowd was, you know, of course pro tiger, but not necessarily just all there for tiger and that someone would have chimed in for the, you know, for the, the sanctity of the competition and, and, and would have spoken up of something weird happened there. Yeah. And I had to believe in there. I think that's, it was pre like pre-self on era. So, you know, it's a sketchy stuff could have happened, but I'll just say, less camera angles too. You know, that's another thing too, because I guarantee you now there would have been a camera angle to show exactly what happened there. So smiley, let me hard turn this now. Are you, are you an, it's always sunny guy, you want to tell us any Philadelphia? I'm a big, I use a lot of their gyps. Okay. Are you a Giff or Jeff guy? I'm a GIF guy. I'm a GIF guy. Okay. And I think that's probably, it's good for the show. The one of us is a GIF guy. One's a GIF guy. I feel like you're on the right side of history, but I'm going to just have to be the guy to be the GIF guy. I was working on like a social production team at ESPN when that like announcement was made and my boss was like, yeah, it's called a GIF now. And I was like, I'm not calling it that. It's a GIF. So, thanks. But yeah. So there you go. So there's a detour there. So you, so then you, you would be familiar with the Pepe Silvio GIF from It's Always Sunny where Charlie Day has the big web of yarn. Yes. That's where I am right now with the PGA tour, you know, the committees, the boards, you know, the, the, the negotiations with the PIF. I mean, prior to this week, you know, heading in with the, with the, with the whole Rory McElroy situation. Of course, he goes out and wins the golf tournament. But on the front end of this week, the, the topic of discussion was there are rumors that Web Simpson had cleared the way for Rory to rejoin the policy board and take Web Simpson's seat on that board. And then it was revealed, uh, and, and the, you know, preterm press conferences and media availability after rounds that Rory was not going to be rejoining the policy board over the reported objections from other players on that board. Specifically, the players named were Tiger Woods, Patrick Cantley and Jordan Speed. And so then we had that whole wrinkle and we're like, all right, what's going to happen here? But then Rory reveals that even though he's no longer on the policy board, he has joined a transaction subcommittee that will be negotiating with the PIF alongside some SSG investors. And he is one of three players on that subcommittee, Tiger, Adam Scott or the others. So I mean, yes, I'm Pepe Silbioing right now. I don't quite know what to make of all this. Let's just begin with your overall thoughts processing all the information that relates to Rory's involvement with PGA tour negotiations that we found out in this past week. Well, it was, it was kind of wild to follow. I was a little annoyed, disappointed, frustrated, whatever word you want to use when Rory at his press conference at Wells Fargo this week announced that he was not going to be on the Wells Fargo due to at the time was predicted to be like Patrick Cantley who didn't want him to be on the board. We knew that there were potential issues between the two guys. I don't know how cordial they are, how, I don't, I'm not here to report the drama between any of the players and Rory McRoy. But I have been leaning more towards someone like Rory and he's obviously one of the most influential players in the game. He speaks his mind, he's one of the best players in the game and one of the best players to ever play the game. So for him to not be involved in the conversations in a time in which you feel like you need to have a guy like Rory involved in the conversations, that to me was very disheartening. I definitely see from the policy board standpoint, it's like, hey, there is, you know, we do have rules in which players roll on and roll off. But then you also kind of look at, wait, didn't they kind of add another spot just so tiger could be on the policy board? So there's ways around all of this. I definitely think there was an issue with Rory coming back on the policy board full time, which obviously came out. But with that being said, I do think it's awesome that the transactional subcommittee came out. And by the way, when he was playing so well on Sunday, I typed in on Jiff transactional or transactional. I was like, there's got to be a really cool Jiff here that I can use on on X or Twitter with about Rory McRoy in a transaction. There was nothing that was that great, but I was I was thinking I was like, Oh, maybe I'll find something. But with that being said, I'll leave you with this is that I think it's fantastic that Rory is going to be involved in the conversations with path. And probably for his sake, he gets to avoid a lot of the other stuff you have to do with the policy board. It doesn't have to be on as many phone calls, but still has a voice in the game. And then also gives credit to to all the guys that are on the policy board now that have, you know, they hung tough. They didn't they didn't quit when things were not going their way like Rory did. So I can imagine there's some animosity from those guys. They're like, Hey man, you left us high and dry. And then everything that you did pretty much since then has really not helped us from a leverage standpoint. So I think that that there's a little bit of still frustration from a lot of the policy board players that had plenty of calls that they probably had to hop on being like, Did you all see what Rory said this time? It's it's not that he's wrong, it's just like you it needs to be much more guided in that who's team are you on? And I think that was the frustration from the PGA two or policy board side. It's not that he's wrong. It's just it's just what you can or can't say in public when you're conducting a negotiation like that. And and it's also not that he's wrong, but they're just going to be differences of opinion on this thing. Right or wrong that we know of right now, until a deal gets done, you can point back and say that person handled it the right way. I think the most interesting sort of sub dynamic in this whole thing is Rory and Jordan Spieth. And it's interesting to me that Rory, you know, kind of referenced, he was asked about this whole relationship and and he was saying kind of what we're saying about Rory as it pertains to Jordan's comments at the AT&T program where it was come right off the announcement of the deal with SSG. And they're asking Jordan about deal specifics. And Jordan basically said, well, you know, we certainly are going to still have a conversation with the PIF and we're going to, you know, further those negotiations, but it's not like we need to do it anymore because we have the SSG money. And Rory noted that as a that may be well and true, but it's not something you say out loud when you're trying to cut a deal with those people. And I think, you know, Jordan Mayer may not have said this on the record, but I'm sure he feels similarly about the statements that Rory made, you know, in public about what the tour should or shouldn't do and the way that changed the leverage that the tour had and having this negotiation negotiation with the PIF. So it's interesting. And I don't think either of them are necessarily wrong. I mean, I think that what I agree with as it pertains to Rory's point of view is that I want to see a unification of professional golf. And it seems that Rory is more skewed in that direction now of, let's find a way to get a deal done, whatever that looks like. I mean, I've said something, I said some of that effect this last week on the show where I was like, let these guys come back with minimal penalties, because that's actually going to be the most effective thing at, you know, killing live, right, like to get them to come back and they play here instead of saying, you got to go play corporate, you're what's never going to happen. So I agree with Rory on that, but I also can fully understand the hesitations of, you know, anyone on the other side of the fence that's has gone through all this work and try to put together this deal and then, you know, are hearing these public comments being made. To that point, it was interesting that Rory basically said when asked about the different, the disagreements with Tiger, where he said, you know, hey, look, friends can disagree. We had a nice long 45 minute chat about it and just, it was good to hear his viewpoint, you know, I'm sure it was good for him to hear mine. I wonder what you make of that relationship between probably the two most important stakeholders in the PGA Tory, you know, in terms of player, public face between Tiger and Rory, you know, what you make of that relationship going forward, both in the fact that they will no longer be together on the policy board, but they will be working together on this transaction subcommittee. Well, I think it is very important that the two are having these discussions and I think Rory said something after one of his rounds this week saying that does a deal need to get done? Well, no, but would it be good for professional golf if it does get done? Yes. And I think just referencing that both tours can continue to go on in the way in which they're heading, but I just keep continuing to think how many more guys does it continue to take where it's just, hey, you know, it's just two more guys. It's Tony Fino. It's Victor Havelin this time. It's, you just can't continue to lose two, three, four guys every single year. It's just not a winning formula. If you're with the PGA tours ever going to continue to be, you know, considered to be the best tour in the world. Right now it's a debatable, very debatable. Yeah. I mean, it's the ratings reflect that. I think just the interest past the majors reflects that. So I guess that and maybe again, we're just guessing as, you know, what happened behind the scenes there and how this whole thing shook out, but maybe that was ultimately why Rory ended up on this subcommittee instead of the policy board is that, you know, the subcommittee seems to reflect a willingness to try to cut this deal with the PIF and bring these two sides back together and hammering out those details and sit in, and, you know, a guy like Rory is clearly more suited to that conversation than a guy like Patrick Caitley might be, but policy board is more suited towards representing the interests of the larger PGA tour membership and protecting guys that may feel like, you know, we don't want to just welcome these guys back in with the open arms, whether or not that's conducive to unifying professional golf. They do have to look out for the interest of, you know, that subset of guys. That's their duty as members of the policy board. So I can understand all parties involved and why they end up where they end up. It's just, it's just one of these things, man, where it's like, you sent me, we were exchanging screenshots on this thing and it just felt like we were back, you know, last summer where we're, you know, having on a antitrust lawyer to explain to us the minutiae. It's like, I don't want to think about these things, man. I don't want to think about subcommittees and committees upon committees. Like I would just like to watch golf and talk about that. You know, and, and so I just, it just is yet another sign of the times where we have to report on it, you know, people, people have to talk about it. They're elements of drama, you know, it's fun, it's juicy. But at the end of the day, it's like, can we just figure this thing out so we don't talk about steps anymore? I'm with you. And I think the one thing that I want to ask you as a fan, if you watch the Wells Fargo today or even a couple of these other events this year that have been these runaway winners, which we've had, we've had these blowout wins and then we've had, you know, like for instance, this week, it was a two horse race. So I think from a TV perspective, that is when it's nice to have the team aspect. It's like, it gives you another reason to care about what Sungjam is doing or what Ben An is doing. You know, these players that are so far back, but if there is another element to it from a team side, you know, that, that just adds another component to it that it I'm growing onto. I think still the most important thing is who won the Wells Fargo championship, which is Roy McElroy. I think that always needs to be the number one thing for the PGA Tour. I think it's, you know, that's been what it's always been. It's very traditional, but I do think it's a cool thing to kind of follow on a day in which it was just incredible golf between two guys that turned out to be on the back night, just one guy, but I just wanted to hear your thoughts on that. Yeah, it's interesting because I think about this from a couple of different viewpoints. Scott Fawcett of Decay Golf made a point along the lines of, you know, this type of leader board is what you get when you have a limited field, you know, where there are less guys playing in the event. And therefore, you know, there's more of a chance you get two guys running away instead of a fuller top of leaderboard where, you know, if, if Sandra starts having an off day, there's someone else who can get there and press Rory and still make it interesting. Um, you know, I think that's a fair point. Uh, I think the team golf aspect aspect is also an interesting one because I almost go back to our discussion about live Adelaide and, and how even though, and this is no offense to Brendan Steele, but even though he's the guy at the top of the individual leaderboard, it wasn't even a thing for me. It was about the ripper twin. It's about ripper. And so I, I think there is definitely something to that. Um, you know, I, I just think in general, it's, you don't have to, it would be my opinion that you could have fuller fields by bringing the live guys back into the fold in some way, shape or form, you know, you're just adding 10 or so guys to these fields. Like I would love to see these type of events get too close to a hundred person field. You know, I, I think that's where I land to. I'm right. And so I, I think that there are a couple of different things I'd like to see done differently to still give it the elite sense, but also not end up where you end up today where it's like, oh man, like, you know, and all credit to Rory, he ran away with it, but it's like Xander starts losing and then it's like, all right, well, we can just turn this off now because of the things over, you know, and I think that it's, it, that's tough. And I do think team golf can help with that. I think that's a good point made, you know, and, and, but it's, but it's, this goes back to where when we're constructing, where we're reconstructing our new combined live and PGA tour, new platinum tour, it seems like we're, we're differentiating team events from these other signature events, but you're saying maybe still have them combined in the way that live currently is set up. I don't know. Just something to talk about. Yeah. So he's suggesting, I was just thinking on a day in which he had to run away, like, would have been cool to have another aspect to follow. Would I have cared? I don't know. I was just really excited to watch Xander and Rory battling on Sunday and, and it was a, it was a, it was an awesome battle. Just think about on the sixth hole or, excuse me, the seventh hole, the par five Rory, three putt par and Xander makes an eagle. You're thinking, oh, it's Xander's day. My beer, Rory then goes three, three, three, the next three holes. And then the thing is just over and what an incredible bunker shot he had on 15, making that for eagle. By the way, that I mean, unreal, just so good. So I'm sure that pen was, I mean, that was just like, yeah, it was just saucy, but just another thing to, you know, for us to continue to try to solve the puzzle, the, always sunny in Philadelphia, Jeff. The Pepe Silvio yarn board, we'll call it. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think that it's, you know, it, it is interesting because I think some of this stuff is like, I just want to start taking yarn off the board, man. Like, you know, it's like, I, you know, some of these things, like, what do you think about this? Like, I don't, I don't know, like we're so far down a rabbit hole now, like, I guess if you're pressing me on it, like I have an answer for that thing. Like, really what I just want to see is an ecosystem where with everybody together, the right path just makes sense. And it, you know, that, that's the, that's what I guess my overall feeling with a lot of the stuff is, is like, we're talking about certain hypotheticals and you're like, well, that way's kind of contrived. Now other ways kind of contrived and it, it's like, it doesn't make sense because the big obvious solution is let's not have two competing pro tours, you know? Yeah. So with a PGA tour, you have as a player, an option to play in any event that you want to play in. We have golf tour from what I understand, the contract that you sign, you have to play every single event on that calendar. And I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. And if you haven't seen this, don't worry about it, but I think Rory mentioned something about a contract PGA tour player in which, hey, I'm not against being told where I have to play. I, I've seen this. I think there is a bit of irony there because if you go back one year and the, the first iteration of the signature event, the designated event, you know, there was this like, you know, Rory was part of the ideation process there to a certain degree and it was agreed, hey, we're going to trial this and you can only skip one of these or you're fine. This large sum of money, you don't collect some large chunk of your PIP money. And so Rory, of course, skips the century at the beginning of the year, then he goes to the master's, misses the cut and he pulls out of the RBC heritage and it felt a little bit, you know, feels a little bit ironic to hear comments like that when he was the guy that didn't even stick to the thing. Then you get a final career. Then you get a final. And that's how it works. That might have been an easy calculation for Rory race. If you know what, I'm good. I don't need the money. That's fine. Like I'll take the fine. That's fine. But that's the thing that I think is interesting is I think it can work. And I think in this, in this new platinum tour world, we're constructing, I think it has to work that way because you're basically saying, hey, there are only 18 events that really matter or 14 minutes that really matter. So we need you guys to all be here barring some huge injury or other conflict. But yeah, I think it's going to be a better product because the Byron Nelson this year, the Mexico Open, all of these events that are cognizant, they're just not the level in which the highest level of professional golf should be. It's depleted fields and there is a place for this in professional golf. It just doesn't need to be the top level. So I think for any golf sicko that loves watching golf, just like we do, we're always going to pay attention. Honestly, I'm probably going to care about that tour just as much as I care about the platinum tour. Although, I'll be talking more about the platinum tour. I like Chris Goddard, but we didn't even mention that today. He's a player that 100%. I thought was going to win this year on the PGA tour. If you talked with us with James Nitties early this year, breaking down that corn fairy tour glass, he was one of the guys that I predicted to be just, I played with him in Puerto Rico. And that's what I realized. I think this was my last start. Him and I were paired together and it's like, you know what, I think it's time for me to take a break. This guy has, it's a Cameron champ ball flight thing. It flies 320. It's not high up in the air. Just absolutely smashes it. And it hasn't been a good year for Chris has not been a good year for Chris at all, but it was really cool to see him go out and support Austin Eckroat at the cognizant this year on Sunday, actually Monday morning, he went watch and following him around. So it was, you know, just to see a guy support his friend and then later on in that year, go and get a win as well. The talents there, he just got to continue to, for his game to mature because the talent is just absurd. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think to, to take that point and apply to what we're talking about, it's like, just make the story authentic, you know, just, just, just make the, don't tell me the story is something different than what I know it to be because I'm watching it. Like just make it clear, like this is the platinum tour. This is the premium tour and we know the storylines are associated with that. And then this sort of second level is like the upstart, you know, whatever, however you want to brand that it's the tour where like guys with a dream and who can play their way to the top tier kind of get their chance to do that in a way that's, you know, maybe more. I think you have to do some marketing around that, but you can do it because it's, it's almost like a hybrid of the current PGA tour and what the corn fairy tour is now or the DP world tour. I mean, I think there are ways where you can creatively use all the partnerships that you have in place in this sort of what was this framework deal with the PGA tour and the PIF and the DP world tour to really create something compelling in terms of the storyline. But just don't tell me that this is the story of this tournament when I know it's not the term, the story that tournaments I'm watching it, it's just not compelling in that way. So I think it's, it'll, it'll be, you know, they're the right set of minds to do it. It's just like, can we clear all the hurdles that we spent the past 25 minutes discussing with the guys who were in these boardrooms, trying to make these deals happen and, and the way they conflict and, and you know, the way they disagree, it's like, can we just make all that work to get to the place we need to go to make this thing compelling and authentic once again? And I think we can do it. Uh, you know, it's, I just hope it's sooner rather than later. So. All right, Charlie. You can do it. What? That's worth. Charlie Hugh believes you can do it. So he is all in on the, he is all in on the transactional committee and I'm here for it. We need two shirts. We need t-shirts. We need, we need transactions subcommittee t-shirts. I'm sure someone's already printed those, but that's, we need to show up in Louisville with those shirts on. Uh, that feels like a good place to, to, to, in this episode. So just as a reminder, we will be in Louisville, uh, this entire next week, we're so fired up about this doing, uh, the preview show. As previously mentioned, at Malone's stay cast on Louisville and then we're working on some, some fun little locations for our, our daily recap journals this next week where we're, we're got a couple of different things in play and we'll see how those shake out. But that present Malone's that's happening on Tuesday, that episode should drop in your feeds on Wednesday morning on both YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. And then of course, stay tuned for our content all week long live from Louisville. 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After Rory McIlroy's second win in three weeks at the Wells Fargo Championship, Smylie Kaufman and Charlie Hulme discuss the showdown setting up between Rory and Scottie Scheffler at Valhalla - the site of Rory's last major win. Smylie and Charlie also have a "clutch gene" discussion as it relates to Xander Schauffele after another near miss at a marquee event while playing in the final group. Smylie is then joined by Bob May, runner-up to Tiger Woods in the 2000 PGA Championship at Valhalla, to relive that thrilling playoff finish (and Tiger's iconic walk-in putt). Finally, SK and CH discuss where Rory's week began - with the news that he would not be rejoining the policy board as reported, but instead would be assuming a role on the transaction subcommittee.
