In this episode I sit down to talk with Lisa about the wisdom of the Desert Mothers and Fathers as well as her new book on spiritual formation, contemplative prayer, and many other related themes.  For information on Lisa's work you can go to: https://lisadelay.com/blog/ you can find her book Wild Land Within there or find information to her show Spark My Muse For more information on this podcast and to get extra content from my colleagues; Trey and Sam please go to: http://www.patreon.com/threeblackmen