Harry Higgs joins Smylie Kaufman to cover a wide range of topics, starting with his heartfelt winner's speech at the Visit Knoxville Open honoring Grayson Murray's memory with a call for kindness. From there, SK and the Big Rig chart his journey from college - where he played alongside Bryson DeChambeau at SMU - to the pro ranks, and what he's learned along the way. Harry goes behind-the-scenes on the moment of the 2022 WM Phoenix Open - when he and Joel Dahmen removed their shirts on the 16th hole to the delight of the crowd - then recaps his two-win streak on the Korn Ferry Tour, and the four-item pre-shot checklist that has helped immensely with his mental approach. The episode concludes with Smylie and Charlie Hulme making their one-and-done picks for the RBC Canadian Open.
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Harry Higgs on his speech in Grayson Murray's memory, his KFT win streak, and the WM shirt moment
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Okay, no flying cars, but as soon as they get invented, they'll be on AutoTrader. Just you wait. AutoTrader. [cheering] [cheering] Smiley coffin for 61. Wow! I'm Smiley coffin, and this is The Smiley Show. Welcome back to another episode of The Smiley Show. We got Harry Higgs, aka The Big Rig, joining us here today. Harry, I was actually wondering what shirt you were going to wear today, what sunglasses you were going to wear, because I was going to be so disappointed if we didn't have the unbuttoned buttons like we had today. So luckily, all the folks watching on YouTube get to see that, but the sunglasses are not on, so I don't even know who this is. It could be Harry, it could be an accomplice, but we've got to start with the side of your face. Like, what's happened here? My appearance has changed a little bit. We had this plan for a little over a month. I was going to get, I had some skin cancer removed yesterday morning. Nothing major, very easy procedure. I was awake the whole time, didn't feel a darn thing, but I've got to keep this kind of ridiculous looking band-aid on until noon today, when I can then shower and redo the band-aid. I got to keep a band-aid on my face for 10 days, but the ladies that did the procedure said that I should be good to go play golf next week. I was trying to convince them that I could, obviously, have had some success last two weeks. I was trying to convince them, like, let me out, and I'm going to fly to Raleigh and try to win a third. They were not too keen on that idea. Wow, how about that? So it was just a little bit of skin cancer that stopped the run of Harry Higgs right now. Yeah, eventually I do have to, and I'm doing better, eventually I got to be a real person. Got to take care of myself, maybe have a week at home to do things like this, or get some stuff in the house in order, or make sure my now wife is everything's okay. Very fortunate to have some nice results the last two weeks, so I don't really have to sweat sitting at home. Although, yes, I apologize that I do look ridiculous. Everything's intact and nothing. I'm just going to, over time, I'm just going to have a little tiny scar, maybe it makes me look tough, but reminder to all the helpers out there. We spend a lot of time outdoors in the sun. It's probably a good idea to go get your skin checked. Absolutely. I know Justin Thomas has had an issue on the back of his leg, and he's got a pretty gnarly scar from it now, and yeah, I went to your point. I wish I would award more sunscreen when I was a kid. Now, I'm lathering up every single day, and you were actually saying that maybe your sunglasses are a reason that it's almost like throwing your skin. Yeah, that's a theory. I don't know that it was proven, but I always had a little spot right underneath where obviously my sunglasses would hit, and to me, it almost felt like it was like the side of the sunglasses were acting as a reflector, and just kind of like, I guess quote-unquote, burning kind of the side of my face here. The other side is all good. We had that checked, and it was all good, so it was nice that it's just one side. We caught it obviously super early, and I will have no complications other than maybe looking a little ridiculous for the next few days. Right, and Harry, you just, like you said, you just went back to back weeks. First off, congratulations from not only myself, but Charlie Hume, who currently is a producer and co-host on this podcast. We were both so excited to see you get the dub, but I think, you know, you've become viral, and you'd like it to be for winning, but it was your words speaking upon the recent passing of Grace and Murray, and I know Grayson was a friend of you, also a friend of me, but we're going to play a quick excerpt from your winning speech in Knoxville. It's about a minute long, and we're going to have you react after just from all the words and texts if you've received since this excerpt from speech. I would challenge everybody here, and I'm going to do this myself as well. Each day, say something nice to someone you love, and also make it a point to say something nice to somebody you do not even know. The world is a very difficult place. Thank you. The world is difficult, and only getting more difficult. I've been blessed with great parents and a great support system, and I haven't had trouble other than some frustration at time, any battles mentally, but Lord knows how many people do, and it's only ever increasing. So, if we can, everybody here could be a difference, the difference, right enough somebody's day, it could mean the world. That's very well said, Harry. I mean, couldn't imagine those words and those thoughts were weighing pretty heavily on you from Grayson's passing, but since, I mean, that sweet that the corn fairy put out has 2.8 million impressions. So, this has spread way past the game of golf. You see Scott Van Pelt also reaching out and tweeting how great it was. Who all of you heard from and how are these last weeks gone from those words? Yeah, man, who all of I heard from, darn near everybody, and most everybody it was, and as it should be, it was a quick and short congratulations on my success, but then also, I guess in a way, congratulations and just an appreciation that I took the time to kind of, obviously honor Grayson, but also try to put some good out in the world. I have been good on my challenge for the last couple of days. I'm going to try to live it day by day. There were some folks that aptly did point out that I forgot. If we say there's basically two levels of kindness and my challenge, the kindness to a stranger, kindness to a loved one, some folks did aptly point out that there probably shouldn't be a third that I missed in the moment there, but kindness to yourself, say something nice to yourself each day, which I think that's kind of a whole point of mental health. Again, I don't really have much experience with any sort of struggles, but there are millions that do, and maybe even just a kind word to yourself as you end the day, as you start a day, is a great way to do it, too. But yeah, it's been pretty, I would say I get selfishly pretty awesome to hear from a ton of people, to hear their appreciation for one me, obviously honoring Grayson, and then also just saying what I've said. I've even gotten some emails from some folks that have won experience mental health or have lost people that they love to suicide. I have dealt with that in my own family, in kind of our friend circle, people growing up, there are people that were really, really struggling and didn't maybe have the outlets that they needed to get help. And quite frankly, I mean, this is my opinion and my selfish opinion on it. I'm tired of hearing the people that maybe struggling and don't know of a way to get through that struggle. Again, I do not have experience with it, so I don't want to come off as brash, but I certainly am tired of hearing it. And if I can use, I guess quote unquote, my platform to make a difference in somebody's life or somebody's day, somebody's mental health, I think that's far worth it. That is the more important stuff than winning a golf tournament and, you know, well, it's me. It's, you know, smiley. We can get caught up in our own little worlds. You can get caught up in your can. Yeah, I mean, and that's okay too. We're human beings and we're all pursuing something. It's okay to be caught up in your own little world and be selfish at times. But I just thought, you know, one, one a great, what a great opportunity to honor grace and then kind of gift things maybe from selfless or selfish to selfless and to kind of spread some love in the world through just some simple kindness day by day. And Harry, you and I both were friends with, with Grayson and I'm sure there's maybe a story or a moment in your relationship with Grayson that maybe sticks out over the years. Is there anything that you could tell us about Grayson that maybe people didn't know about him or just something that that maybe you've had some reflection time to be like, man, I either saw the signs or man, you know, a Grace was such a great dude because he because he said this to me x days or anything for you that that comes to mind. It wasn't anything specific. And I, you know, I hadn't seen Grayson in probably what two, three years, he was yeah, playing some on the corn ferry tour while I was on the PGA tour. And then he had his success. And we kind of flip flop. Right. So that's right. That's one of those things that if you're not playing in the same tournaments, you don't really, you don't really see them. You don't really hear from them. I mean, I don't think the countless encounters that I have, but I don't think he ever didn't have a smile on his face. And then just like overall, the way that he carried himself, I know that obviously he was dealing with some, with some difficult things. But man, he, he never didn't have a smile on his face. And I really, really appreciated. And it's not really a laughing matter. But I appreciated how open and honest he was. I mean, how difficult it must be. Obviously, he had some success last year on the corn ferry tour. And then into this year on the PGA tour, some unbelievable success. And he, at every turn, used that moment to shed light on the struggles that he has had, the struggles that others may be having. You know, I, that's kind of what, what ran through my head really even Saturday evening before, obviously, I was fortunate enough to win was like, I mean, if he can do that, if he can shed light on his struggles and other struggles, while he's having success, or while he's not even having success. I mean, it was, it's almost like he always referred it back to, look, I have struggled before. I'm in a better place now. Others are continually continuously struggling. You know, they need help. People need help. I just, I found that obviously inspirational. So that, that's kind of what led me to take that moment. It, you know, it doesn't need to be about me. It certainly was about me the just the week prior in Kansas City, obviously winning in my hometown. There's, there's no way around that. But yeah, it doesn't need to be about me. It needs to be about others. And then obviously with the sad news, it also needs to be about honoring Grayson this last week. Yeah. And the challenge that you, you asked for, for those listening to partake in something that I, I fully believe in, I try to do every day and will continue to try to do. So thank you for putting those words in the air and I'll try to follow up with you on this. And you, when I, when I watch this video way back, when you won, I believe it was in Springfield. Is that correct? Yeah, you don't in Springfield. And I could just see the joy on your mother's face and your face. You could definitely tell you're a mama's boy, by the way. That was pretty, that was pretty obvious right from the get go. But you just won at your hometown. And I could tell how important your family is to you and going and looking at just where you grew up. And I didn't realize you were born in New Jersey, but you grew up in Kansas City. And now you live in Dallas, you went to SMU. So there's a lot of, a lot of crazy like factors here. So he's got an Eagles fan that grew up in Kansas. But you live in Dallas now. And now we have the stars, you got the Mavs. Where are we in the sports world with Harry Higgs? Because, you know, you got so many different trees that it's pulling you in. Yes, the Philadelphia Eagles, there is no waiver there. I am not a Chiefs fan. I am not a Cowboys fan. There is no waiver there. And we did my, my now wife, obviously her family, all of the friends of mine growing up in high school are massive Chiefs fans. So the Eagles and the Chiefs a couple of years ago in the Super Bowl was tough. Yep. That was, that was one that I would have really liked to have won. Not that I had to, you know, say, I would have won it. I didn't have anything to do. Oh, no, it's you. It's you. Well, I mean, a point point zero one percent, maybe. Yeah, there you go. But yeah, in terms of, we're going to go to the game. What is it? Game five. What's today Wednesday? We're going to go to the game here, the stars game Friday night. Okay. In terms of all the others, I would wholeheartedly hand out, I am as fair weather as it gets. I'll be rooting on the Mavs. Yeah, I'll be rooting on the stars, much like I would be if the, you know, Sixers were winning or the Flyers were winning, I'd be rooting them on. Just a good hometown guy. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll go hometown on everything other than football. The, the Eagles are, I guess you'd say I bleed green through and through. I mean, there's no, as I'm sure most everybody, if they've obviously encountered an Eagles fan or maybe seen what some Eagles fans are capable of, there is no waiver there. So yeah, it's, uh, Eagles are bust. And then I'll be a fair weather fan just better than else. Well, I wore my Pine Valley hat today in support of Philadelphia Eagles. I've got a little bit of coffee in a Pine Valley. Sure. My wind. Yeah. Yeah. So I had definitely had to wear a little bit of Philly gear just to make you feel comfortable here on the podcast today. But, uh, you know, I, I'm really curious too. So how did you end up at SMU? Like that's, you know, you have all of these different ways of where you could have gone and had you end up into Alice? Probably just dumb luck. You know how it kind of goes. I mean, you experienced it. Uh, I was fortunate to be recruited by, I don't know, 10, 10-ish programs. And then, you know, as I get older and older, you know, high school, it kind of continues and it continues and recruitment and phone calls and letters and everything. And then the coach at the time here at SMU, uh, Jay Lour, um, who was just there for my first year while I was in school, he was the only one that came up and visited us in Kansas City at our, at our house. Um, I remember we finished dinner and I didn't know where I was going to go to school or anything like that. You know, it was my, probably the fall of my senior year. Um, and we finished dinner and he just asked, we, you know, come play for, come play for me and, and come to school at SMU. And I was just kind of thought in my head real briefly that, well, yeah, of course I will. You're the only one that's made all this effort to come up here. I mean, I'm not going to, I'm not going to disappoint you and make you go all the way home. Um, and then, yeah, when you do show up to school, you never really know. I don't think at least for a couple of years, if you made the right decision, um, but I certainly found, uh, early on that I did make the right decision and then, you know, post school, it just makes so much sense to stay here in Dallas. Obviously it's a little central, nicer. Yeah, nicer weather than Kansas City. Although we get some weird kind of crappy days in the winter. Um, but the other dumb block of how easy it is to travel out of here, but obviously even throughout college, I didn't realize because all we had to do was show up on time to the airport. I wasn't booking any of the flights then, but it's nice that there are next to none, uh, kind of destinations that I would have to stop or connect in. It's almost, I get almost anywhere in the world nonstop, which, which makes it a little bit easier. Yeah, totally. And, and the coach, the rest of your time there was, it was Josh Gregory, correct? Yeah, my, his three years at SMU were my last three. So Jay, Jay was great. I really appreciated him. Uh, you know, obviously in his recruitment, Jay was a little older and at times maybe harder for me personally to not get along with. We got along with great, but kind of, I guess for me to kind of process his message to me about how he thinks that I should get better and, and then it was, it was just the total opposite with Josh. He was, I mean, just the fact that he was younger, he had recently just won two national championships at Augusta. You're like, something's right. It's a little easier to, I guess, listen for some young dumb kid that thinks he knows everything. And then yeah, I, I was, uh, I was very fortunate with all the coaches I had, um, high school college, you know, even post college that they were always pushing me to be better. And I got a ton of great information from them that, you know, I still use to this day. Yeah. And I go back and look at pictures from that team and you see a lot of familiar faces. You know, you see Josh Craigery, who, who coached Patrick Reed, he coaches so many tour players on the PGA tour now, whether it's their short game, their, their, their long game, it's their performance side. So Josh Craigery, obviously one of the better coaches probably ever to coach in college in my, yeah, I would say, and I'm a Homer, but I'd say golf in general, uh, especially with the success he's had, you know, post leaving SMU. It's, yeah, I mean, so you have a guy like Josh Gregory, who is an incredible coach. And then, but you look at the rest of your team, you're like, okay, recognize that guy, Bryson de Shambo. And then Austin Smotherman, there's Harry Higgs. And I, I just think about being in a atmosphere like that, which is, you know, you have a lot of different personalities. Bryson is, I can't imagine is the perfect college golf teammate, because he's, he's wired totally differently than probably anybody you've ever met. But I'm sure there's things that you've learned while you're in school from Bryson that made you better. And then probably things that Bryson learned from somebody like you, who's really relaxed, really chill. Yeah, let's just go play golf. I mean, what, what practice does Harry Higgs need to do? I'm just going to go make birdies were Bryson. I'm sure how many times did you all need to take different vans and buses just to make sure that he wasn't practicing till the, to the end of the day, right? Countless times. It was, it was eye opening. And I was two years older than both Bryson and Austin. So I just had two years with him. And I was kind of, you know, at that time, the elder statesman on the team. And as I'm sure you could imagine, I certainly would voice my opinions on some things, maybe more often than I should. In terms of Bryson as a teammate, I mean, he really was great. You know, he was super young, super into just his golf. So it was like, it was always odd for me. I mean, it felt like he never turned it off. And it's like, man, why don't you also enjoy, you know, this great school we go to, you know, your teammates, everybody else. And then over time, we got him to show up more and more to some, you know, team dinners, team hangouts. And I really enjoyed my two years with Bryson in terms of what I learned from him. It was like just blanket, simply work ethic, because it just never stopped. He was very driven to be the best golfer in the world when he showed up at SMU, you know, 18. Another thing was he just really couldn't be budged. Obviously, he does things different, you know, single length irons, you know, just kind of the way he attacks the game and how he approaches getting better at it. He couldn't really be influenced. He stuck to his guns. And it was, you know, if he was going to make it work, we did his freshman year, we got him for like three months to use a just a normal length lob wedge. The wedge is where the part that I never really understood. They're just so long. And you know, it just becomes a little harder to chip and control your distances on distance with distance wedges and the like. He did I'd say for about three months, he used a normal length lob wedge. And then he just said, like, I'm going to go back to what I know. And he worked, I mean, tirelessly to master it. I mean, he was always chipping, always just trying to find a way to use what you know, a lob wedge that was, I think it was always like seven and a half iron length. It was really pretty incredible, man. And he pushed me not directly, but indirectly to work harder and harder and harder. And then obviously, he was a world beater when he showed up and had great success in college. So selfishly for me, you know, it's like, I'm the old guy. I'm I want to I want to be the guy here, which I never was he was always way better than I was. But selfishly, it just got to the point where it was like, all right, well, if I just beat Bryson, I mean, I'm gonna, I'm gonna finish in the top five. Yeah, I'm gonna have a chance to win. So he motivated in a kind of shown way, you know, show the example of how to work hard, how to prepare, whereas maybe I would motivate some of the guys and I don't pretend that I had much of an effect, but I would motivate more as to tell though, I'm going to tell you how to do this. But yeah, man, I really enjoyed, I really enjoyed my time at SMU. I definitely think had I, I would like to think had I gone somewhere else, I would still be able to be sitting here talking to you having had some modicum of success in professional golf. But I think SMU was was massive for me in the relationships that I made with my teammates, my coaches, and even the folks here in Dallas that were crucial in helping me play professional golf when there was no money in it, you know, mini tour stuff and whatnot. I've got some, I've got a great support system that extends far and wide, both in Kansas City and here in Dallas. Yeah, I played with you guys and SMU at Cabo, one year at Chorrancy. I'm not sure if you were playing that week. I was paired with Austin Smotherman and he hit every single fairway. I'm like, this guy doesn't miss the middle of the face. He doesn't. I don't think he has since. He's pretty impressive and he was, he was always, he was always so much fun to be around. Austin is at Trinity Forest here with me as well now. So I see Austin all the time. He is so good. He is, I really truly feel like he is, he's obviously much like everybody else just trying to navigate professional golf and find ways to get better little bits here and there. But I would say he is somebody that I would highlight and circle. He gets a couple good results and just gets some confidence in his abilities. And I think this guy's the limit for him. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. He's a tremendous ball striker and we just refreshed my memory just about Bryson's game and college and amateur golf because he's been in like all these different zones in which he was a short guy that hit it really straight. Then he was a beefy dude that hit it long. Now he's kind of a mix of both. Yeah. And when he got to college, was it like his iron game was what was so dang good, right? I mean, exactly what he was looking. I think we had, he was definitely not long, not like he is now. Yeah. I think we would, like we would go to tournaments, right? Let's say we went to five tournaments in eight weeks and we would all play a practice round together and you'd stand on a tee and it's okay. Well, our target is, you know, that tree out in the distance and then you'd hit stand there on the approach and it's like, hey, when the kind of thinking about what it's going to be like in the tournament, okay, that flag's going to be back right. We don't want to, maybe that's not one we attack. We're going to just keep it in line with the other tree, you know, 15 feet left of it. And I swear, man, for months on end, whatever you, wherever you told them that it was going to go, we should just went there. Yeah, it was, I mean, and I know that he's done some swinging, I guess, robotically and some studying, but it was, it was robot golf. It was unbelievable. And then if he ever, you know, chipped and putt it halfway decent, he had a chance to win. It was, it was remarkable. He, early on, I think his freshman year midway through his sophomore year, he probably had upwards of 10 top 10s and he just needed to kind of not be so hard on himself, right, not get so frustrated if things didn't go his way. And then once he kind of understood the mental side of the game and was working on that, boom, he just started winning everything. So it was, it was impressive, man. He, he could make you feel like, how am I ever going to beat this guy? And I had a, I got him a couple times, but yeah, it's so impressive. Well, the big rig is the heck of a player himself. Don't, don't let him short you here. Because this guy can play. And when you got onto the PGA tour, can you just talk a little bit about this first couple of years? What, because you had some success. Yeah, don't get it wrong. But when you showed up out there, did you feel ready to go? Did you feel like you could win? And just yeah, anything you may have learned in this first couple years, I would say those first couple of years. Yeah, man, I was my mind went to, you know, I've before my first year on the PGA tour 2019, I believe, you know, I had done two years of the PGA tour Latin America year on the Cornfury tour, a couple of years of mini tour golf. And I had just kind of seen this like steady ascent, certainly my game had gotten better every year. But yeah, by the time I got out on tour, like, well, none of these guys did the hard stuff like I did, which is untrue. Most of them did the hard stuff. But my mind went to, well, none of these guys did went to these places that I went and yada yada yada. So yeah, it just gave me like almost a shot of confidence, kind of the avenue that I took to get there. And, you know, it was nice also, I mean, early on, I think my first handful of events I finished in the top 20, top 10, finished second in Bermuda, my first fall, which was, you know, boom, very Iowa. It was also opening it. I teed off with a two shot lead. I believe it was a two shot lead. I shot three under and lost by four or five to Brennan Todd, who shot 66. Welcome to pro golf, right? Yeah, that was like, oh, wow. Okay, yeah, this is no offense to Brennan Todd, who's now a friend. But I was like, I didn't even really know who this guy was. And he was 10 under through 11th. I mean, it was whoa. Yeah, I realized quickly how hard it was to win. But yeah, I mean, I had, I would have said, you know, I had much more confidence in my abilities and kind of what I did and how I prepared and how I played the game my first two years. And then the next, you know, the next couple of years where I struggled a little bit more, I maybe didn't have the same confidence in my abilities because I let myself get too down on myself with some of the results that I had, you know, it's okay. Man, it's hard. You're gonna, well, I mean, you're gonna miss a couple cuts in a row where you felt like you played some good golf or, you know, you felt like you played really awesome golf, but you only finished 40th. You know, I kind of lost the, I lost the positivity and the eternal optimism that I almost always had. And that led me to struggle a little bit. And I think it prolonged my struggle as well. In those kind of second couple years, and it does, it does feel like now I kind of snapped out of that and I need to remember to see themselves. Yeah, not let it get, not let it get back to that spot. You know, I show up to golf tournaments as ridiculous as it may sound to, to win, prepare to win. So just get out of your own damn way. And you know, let's see what happens. In those first couple of years, I was actually reading this app, this article that Gabby Hertzick wrote about you, I'm not sure if it was last year. But at the very end of the article, it was a really great story about Pebble Beach in which you bogeyed the last hole. And you end up making a big paycheck, which is something that if you've ever gotten the text of a big paycheck from the PGA tour, it's like, okay, this is pretty sweet. Where were you when you got that text and tell us a little bit about the cookies? Yeah, it was, that was probably my like six or seventh event. Maybe a whatever, it was, you know, early part of my, my rookie season. And I was having a nice, I was having a nice Sunday, I had a good week all week and a nice Sunday. It was a very difficult day at Pebble. It was pretty firm, pretty windy. And I think I was maybe a couple under par with your 17 and teed off and like 25th and moved up to, I think I was in the top 10 and just striped it down the fairway underneath huge just past the damn tree. And so we're waiting to take an eel. Yeah, now it's like in my mind, I'm just gonna like, I didn't have a great lie underneath the tree. Obviously, it's shaded the grass doesn't grow as well. Not underweight sunglasses. Well, I remember sunglasses. Yeah, yeah, the shade in me and the sunglasses. And I'm just kind of in my mind like, ah, this lie is not great. You know, it's kind of into off the right. I'm just going to like hit a low, almost choppy three wood into the front bunker for the front flag. I'm in, I'm going to get it up and down. And I'm going to finish maybe, you know, anywhere from fifth to eighth. Yeah. And we have obviously a long way to Pebble. There's a, I'm going to force them without any don't say. Yeah, but there's a, there's some hands chopping it up up there on, you know, on the green in front of us and it takes freaking forever. And so time comes to hit the shot and I can't cook it in the water. And then I guess after that, I dropped and hit like a six iron on the green and make a pretty decent six, you'd say, that's a great six. Yeah. And I'm kind of, you know, obviously bummed out and I'm staying in Carmel and I go back and I'm not leaving till the next day. I think I'm going to Phoenix the next day. And I kept going over right next to hotels, this market that made, you know, had like ready made food and sandwiches and it was great. So I just wore it out all week. So I go there and it's, you know, two o'clock in the afternoon and I'm, I grab a sandwich and I'm waiting to check it out and I'm still just kind of fuming and fuming and fuming and leave, you know, check out by the sandwich leave. And in the parking lot, there's these two, you know, they're probably 10 year old girls selling Girl Scout cookies. Obviously, if you've ever seen me in person, one would assume that I, I enjoy cookies and I especially enjoy Girl Scout cookies. And I just gotten done paying the locker room guys a pebble and I, I, it's like, I'm going to buy, I'll buy some Girl Scout cookies. Why not? And the only thing in my wallet was a $100 bill. And it's like, well, regardless of, you know, how much money I just burned by chunk cooking in, in the Pacific, let's look, maybe let's try to brighten up these girls day and give them a hundred bucks. And I, I got two boxes of the, I don't know what they're called, but they're kind of like the Reese's ones, the chocolate peanut butter with a wafer in it. Yeah. Sure. Uh huh. They're my favorite. And a hand of the girls, the $100 bill. And I remember vividly one of the girls walking over to her mom and saying, you know, what do we do? What do we do? And this guy just gave us a hundred. Like, as if, you know, okay, well, we have to calculate the change. And I, you know, obviously just said, no, it's for you guys to keep, you can split it. Thank you so much. We made the short walk back to my hotel, crushed the sandwich. I think in the, at the time I crushed the sandwich, I ate almost one full box of the Girl Scout cookies as well. I turned the golf on and I realized like 18 that day is playing the hardest it's ever played. It's averaging like 5.6. So yeah, I went from after Megan Bogey, I think I went from like 20 second all the way up to like 15th. And then shortly after that, I obviously get the text that I make a whole bunch of money. And I was good. The Girl Scout would be certainly helped. It was 96,000. I think I read. Yeah. I mean, that's like, that's plenty. That is plenty. I can do a lot with that. I don't do really anything with it. But I, if I wanted to, I could. Yeah. Did you go back and buy more Girl Scout cookies right after you? No, I didn't. I figured two boxes was enough because I'm pretty sure. I think there might have been like maximum three or four left when I left the next morning in one of the boxes. One of the boxes had totally been crushed. Yeah, I didn't need any more Girl Scout cookies. That's for danger. Oh, Gary, and the big rig is a nickname. When we saw this physique come out at the waste management Phoenix Open, this is where I tell people all the time, you know, I went on the PGA tour and I won. And I eventually became very well liked because of the spring break stuff. But man, you became an internet sensation after this waste management Phoenix Open. Talk to us about how it started the night before and then you and Joel Damon, you'll just schemed up just great television. Yeah. Well, I'll give you the full rundown if you're okay. Yeah. If you're okay with this might take 20 minutes to get through. So this starts, I think I was maybe four or five under after Friday. And this starts on Friday because I get paired Friday night. We get a text with Keith Mitchell and somebody else. I think we were still in threesomes. And Keith immediately upon us getting our tea time text realizes we're together, he says, you know, this is, we have to do something. We have to do something on 16. And then, you know, I say, obviously, Keith, I'm so excited. Sure. But whenever you think we can have a little bit of fun on 16, yada, yada, yada. About 15 minutes later, he goes, why don't you just take your shirt off? And I immediately say, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not. And then he thought I was worried about the fine. So then he spent the whole evening and the better part of the next day, Saturday morning, raising money from my fellow tour players to pay my fine. It's like, Pete, I'm not worried about the fine. I don't want to be the guy that took his shirt off on 16 at Scottsdale. To hasten the story up just a little bit, I played very poorly on Saturday. As you can see now, Joel and I are teeing up in a twosome off 10 on Sunday. I played poorly on Saturday. I'll never forget we got to that tee. And I think I just birdie 15 to get the honor from Keith and whoever else was with us. And I teed off and I hit it on the green probably like 20 feet. And I remember then he goes and I'm just standing over by my bag and he kind of walks, he hits and hits a decent shot and walks back to his bag. And he's staring at me like, you remember what I said? We're gonna no words were spoken, but I could tell by the look that he was trying to get me to do it. And I was just shaking my head doing this like, no, no chance. Not doing it. Not doing it. So I did, I walked up there and I too cluttered and we went about our day fast forward. You know, I'm now in 60th someplace. And the text comes in Saturday night that I am paired with just Joel Damon, last group off the 10th on Sunday. And then Joel doesn't, which is a death march, which is a death march. Very, very long day. Joel, Joel doesn't go do it as direct as Keith does. Joel, about an hour after we realized we're playing together, he, we hadn't spoken or nothing. And I see that he has tweeted, if this gets enough retweets or likes, you know, Harry Higgs is going to give the people what they want and take his shirt off on 16. And I, I didn't even text him nothing. You know, I saw him the next morning and I'm like, dude, really, why, why you gotta do that? I'm not doing this. I'm never doing this. I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever do it. He's just pointing to seed. He is. And he was trying to be all coy that, you know, I, well, I didn't put a number to it. We could have said it needed a million retweets to do it. And it's like, dude, come on. So we're last off fricking 10 to some, and I remember teeing off, hitting the fairway, going about our day. And then by the time we got to the 10th green, so we had what? Five holes until we got to 16 or maybe six holes. I'm not great at math. And by every, by the time we got to the 10th green, every green and tee, I mean, multiple people, but at least someone was screaming out, did it get enough retweets? Are you guys going to do it? Take your shirt off, take your shirt off. And everybody around that I could hear that said it. And then I know if I noticed them, I was just saying no, absolutely not. I never will. We get to 16. And they're all chanting, take your shirt off, take your shirt off, show some skin, show some skin. Joel goes first. It's a great shot. I'm all amped up and I fly it over the green. This is a fricking putt for par that you guys are seeing. This is not for birdie. No, this is a par. I made a car on the whole. So I juice it up. I don't think I clue the green. I think I one hopped over the green. I get back there and I have a really poor lie. I ain't chipping it in front of all these people. So I grab my putter, whack it up there, make sure I get it at least out of the green. Obviously, it goes about 12 feet. Joel's shot had ended literally on the same line about a foot further away. So Joel goes first. Joel leaves it short from about 13 feet for birdie. And I had some choice words for him under our breath. You know, only us could hear. And then so now it's my turn, right? I've got a 12 some odd foot, whatever it is, putt for par for a freaking par. And as I am reading the pot and as I get over it, everybody is just chanting, take it off or show some skin, right? The whole, I mean, it's 30,000 people just chaining one thing. The problem was that as soon as I hit the pot after getting to see a little bit of the line from Joel, as soon as I hit the pot, I knew it was in the hole. And I swear to you, it took what felt like two minutes for me for it to go in. So I swear, I felt like I had two minutes to decide in this moment, like, are you going to do this? Are you actually going to do this? No way I'm going to do this. I'm not going to do this. I told everybody I wouldn't do this. I don't want to be the guy that does this. And maybe I will do it now. Maybe I will. Maybe I will. Maybe I won't. And then obviously, as it's dropping, I just and to clarify, as you can see, I never actually took mine off. I only lifted my shirt. But I obviously lifted my shirt. And then kudos to Joel after I go and get my ball, I turn around. And he is what a good for Lee take taking his shirt off. So he's a good man. He did not let me, he did not let me do that alone. We enjoyed it. And it's really about this time we realized, obviously, there's beers flying. It's like, Oh, we got to get off this hole. This is not this is not really that safe. Yeah. And then we just kind of goes me through the tunnel on 17. We, we put our clothes back on. And we finished the rest of the day. Oh, God, man. Harry, that is an all timer. I mean, it's, it's an all timer. It's it's a top five moment on the PJ tour, whether people like it or not. And it's just, it's the ad. I mean, it's Christopher. No one couldn't have directed this better than this. It's just beautifully not that we get into the tunnel too. And Joel's got the Netflix people following. And when we kind of stopped and literally Joel has to put his clothes back on, we have to like button our, you know, talk our shirts in, do our belts up. And the Netflix guys after the round said, look, guys, we, you know, we've been following. This was the first year that we've been following it for two months. We never thought we would hear two players while playing a golf tournament say, Oh, shit, we need to put our clothes back on. So they had a good bit of fun with it. I mean, we all had a good bit of fun with it. It was for a while there to annoyed me also that, you know, as the year went on, people would ask it's like, guys, I'm doing that. I'm never doing it again. And I would never do it anywhere other than there anyway. I mean, I was, I was peer pressured by Keith Joel, but also 30,000 people that were in the stands like, if you don't have 30,000 people surrounding a hole, there's no chance that I ever do this. I'm not doing it when there's 10 people around. I mean, and I will not hand the God will not ever do that again. Well, I think that's why you go note buttons on the shirt, just to give us a little skin, just a taste of what, what has happened and what potentially could be. I don't need anything to imagination anymore. Everybody's seen it. But yeah, it was, it turned out to be a pretty wild day. Round of applause. So, so good. That's why everybody loves big rig. It's pretty incredible. And you talked right before we got into all this, just the expectations kind of you put on yourself. And you know, you didn't play your best golf in the years after, whether it was expectations or that positive mindset that you carried into the golf course, which made you successful for those first couple of years, and the years leading up to the PGA tour. And you talked about kind of what you learn. And I think showing up to the corn ferry tour this year, you probably said to yourself, I need to either change my mindset, change either what I'm doing, because I can't continue to try to be perfect, because that's just not who I am. That's pretty much exactly it. And you know, look, I've been working on it to try to snap out of the struggles that I was having, but for whatever reason, I just, it didn't really click until, and look, I even had a few struggles on the corn ferry tour earlier in the year, or super early in the year, and the Bahamas, I played okay. And then I just didn't really have all the skills that I wanted to have in a couple of the Latin America events. And I think it was Savannah, you know, played really pretty poorly. And that was the time where it was like, all right, we just like, I missed, I missed what, three cuts in a row by five or six, and it's just like shaking my head on. So much better than that. Even when I'm not, when I don't come with all the skills that I'd like to come like, I still just, and again, you don't want to attach it to a resultant number, but I still should be able to compete and try to have the highest finish possible come Sunday. So that was, yeah, and then I had a little bit of time off, you know, wasn't in a few events, didn't play a couple corn ferry events, didn't get into some of the PGA tour events. And I guess just got to kind of thinking and kind of, you know, preparing, what am I going to do? Certainly my, my skills, you know, full swing, driving, short game, putting everything else was, you know, improving. There was a lot of hard work put into it. And then yeah, Kansas City a couple of weeks ago was just like, you're all right, man, I feel like I am prepared. Like everything is in a good spot. And I am prepared to play and compete to win. And I did, man, it was Thursday afternoon. I remember finishing up my warm up and just walking the very short distance over the first hole. It was like, okay, I'm ready. I'm ready to place into golf. And then I just had the brief thought that's like, let's jot down a few things that I'm going to do that have nothing to do with the result that I would like to accomplish over the next four days, wrote those down, teed off, looked, you know, just in my Irish book, looked at them, almost every other hole. And just tried to stay kind of, I guess, quote unquote, true to that. And I saw that. I wrote the first one was, each shot needs to have a clear intent. Second was, there needs to be a rehearsal to match that intent. You know, kind of, this is all pre shot. Don't take your shirt off. Yeah, don't take no freaking shirt off. The fourth was accept. Why am I forgetting the third? Oh, third was positive thought. I need to have a positive thought, whether it be a recall that I've hit a shot like this already before, or just like plainly and simply what I want to have happen is going to happen. Or I'm the best, something positive before I walk in and hit it. And then the fourth was accept. And then I added Sunday, I had a chance to win. And then obviously I'm super nervous. There's, this is the town I grew up in, you know, this is 10 minutes from home. I have countless people here supporting me. So I'm super nervous. Don't want to let them down. I wrote down kind of two footnotes was remember to breathe and that this is a marathon and not a sprint. You know, as you know, smiley, you're a winner. That Sunday, man, even when you have a great chance or, you know, you run them down from behind, like so much can happen in 18 holes of those. So you got to just kind of stay locked in and include in. Obviously, that was some version of a blueprint. And I ran it back last week as well. And I was, I was super proud of myself last week even more. So I would have said I did a much better job. I would have said if those four things that I did, I would have graded it solidly out of B in Kansas City. There were a few shots that maybe I was a little waffily on intent, maybe a few shots that I had a couple negative thoughts creep in that I didn't, you know, kind of let pass and then add a positive right before I hit it. But this last week, I did, I would have said I was in the A range where there might have been one or two where I didn't have intent. And then I started Saturday. This last week, I lost the ball left in the rough, made double and was like totally a piece with it, which was not, is not normal for me. I was like, okay, well, this is just part of the story. I'm still going to win this guy. But this is just part of the story. And then I was bummed out. I didn't, I didn't close the deal on regulation, had a putt from probably 60 some odd feet. If I'm down in down in two for birdie, I win. And like, again, I was totally at peace, the two holes in the practice round other than the fact that it was part five straight up the hill. And I was pretty tired of walking it. Yeah, I was like, totally cool with whatever happens. Like, if I get beat great, if I, if I win great, I'm just gonna, this is another couple holes where I get to kind of test myself and see how good I can do in kind of staying in my own little, my own little world, my own little bubble. And let's check off the things on my list and see what happens. And, you know, there was some magic that happened both weeks. And I think that was just because I was in a good, a good frame of mind. We got a role in this magic because it's a shame this wasn't on live TV because it's probably one of the better shots hit on an 18th hole. And this was the force of playoff, correct? Yes. Yes. At the time I was three back. What I did not know was that the guy that was winning had just voted 17. So now this goes in, we wind up, we wind up tying, which this is a lot of luck. Yeah. And you need a lot of luck as you know, smiley to win. Yes. This is like the all far is this. I think it was about 83. I had paced off about 70 where I wanted to land it just below a ridge and then run it up there. And then it landed. What in the world? Yeah. It landed about 15 short of where I thought. It was the worst lie that I had all week in the rough. And I was just, I was trying to keep having a positive thought, but my really, my positive thought was just like big swing. Let's try to get it to land on the green and get it back in the little area where the flag was, because if I get it up and down, you know, I'm going to finish in a tie for second. So I take a big old swing and I, as soon as I hit it, I'm yelling, go, go, go, land on the green, land on the green. It lands, it just keeps going. It lands on the green. I know it's going to have a ton of topspin and I can kind of see it as it crests the hill. Like, okay, it's at least in the, it's at least in the same area, same level as the hole, you know, I should have, I figured it was going to be about eight feet short because I landed at about 15 paces short of where I wanted to. And they, I mean, there were some grandstands surrounding it and everybody, the cheers get louder and louder and louder and we're walking up and in my mind, it's just like, why are they still getting louder? I mean, this has got to be short. It's got to land short. And sure enough, it kind of crescendos obviously into massive roar and I believe as I'm high five in Erwin, it was like, holy that actually went in. Is that Matt in? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know you had Matt Caddy for him. He's the best. He's the Caddy for Tom Love Lady. Yes. Yes. We've got some good Tom stories. Oh, I bet we've got some good Tom stories. But yeah, I mean, it was, I mean, it's dumb luck, right? I mean, it's, and then I was fortunate that Tanner Gore was his name and all credit to him, Monday qualifier, had a two shot lead. I think he went out and shot three under, you know, just dumb luck like this, running them down and catching them. Yeah. But yeah, that's kind of the stuff you need to maybe get your career back on track and certainly just to win one week, you need some help. And if I can make any recommendation to the Blue Hills Country Club, let's put a plaque there. Let's just put a plaque there right at the fairway at 18. This is where Harry Higgs missed the number by 10 yards it and made an eagle to eventually force the point off and win. Now that you say that wouldn't shock me that hopefully I'm not there for the tournament ever again. You know, that's kind of how it goes when you went on the cornfield tour like, hey, we don't want to ever see again, but I will be at Blue Hills many, many times. Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if there is something there that's a little remembrance, maybe cut the cut the rough to them's there. God, it was a bad lie. I got some real good luck. I could tell. When he took that big swing, I was like, Oh, that is a, that's the old knuckleball sandwich. Yeah. And last theatrics we got to show is in the playoff that 18th hole in Knoxville, 18th green eagle putt. Close the show. What happened on this one? Well, I had hit it basically in the same spot. That was the third attempt that I had had it. Each one was getting a little closer. The first one in regulation was in the fringe. The next one was about 10 feet behind that that I could not believe didn't go in. I didn't have it like just wiggling left at the end. And then that one obviously drops. So I knew the read and I was this green. It's green is crazy. They had the they had four pins in the same basically three yard wide radius. And I would say that putt is probably it flattens out more towards the whole, but it's probably a six, seven percent slope the whole way down. So it's a wild putt you just literally get it started. And there's not much break. It just kind of like wiggles back and forth both ways. So each time that I hit it, it looks like it's going to go in the hole. The first the first time I almost de-greened it in regulation. The the second time, maybe a little too hard just misread this little like left wiggle right at the hole. And then that one was just on the right edge, just on the right edge. And I'm just standing there watching it like, all right, if it does what it just did, this is in. And sure enough, it just nods left and catches the catches the hole. It was nice to get that one in because Frank, he had probably 13, 14 feet. He hit a great two shots for Eagle. Now he had, I mean, he had to play about four or five feet a break. So it was not a it was not an easy putt to hole. But it was, yeah, man, I guess I got a flare for the dramatic. There's last couple weeks. Let's go here. Yeah, it's back to back. And the only thing that could stop him is just a little procedure on the side of his face that you can see here. Yes, you can still see it. I'm sure. Yes, we could definitely still see it. It's it's right on the west coast of South America right now. All right. So you're close to the battlefield promotion, winning one more time. You're out on the PGA tour for the rest of the year. How do you how do you navigate the rest of the year? Because I imagine you're going to probably have some opportunities to play on the PGA tour with your status as well as sponsors invites. How are you going to fake? You know, because you can either go eggs all in one basket. Let's just try to get this win, try to get number one on the corn fairy tour points list, which gives you into the players. I think it there's other things that get you as well too. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, where's where's your mind stand on this? I would say I really haven't decided just yet. Yeah. But certainly I would say that I have to, you know, continue to play the corn fairy tour with the goal of finishing number one at the end of the season because it's one versus two is rewarded a whole lot different. You know, two to two to 10 is about the same darn thing, minus maybe a one or more one or two more starts based on obviously your position. My I was we were just married a little over three weeks ago now. And my goal. Congrats. Thank you. My goal post marriage was to have on either tour, have some great results to kind of shore up my my playing status for next year, and then take a honeymoon, not like most golfers do, which is always has to be in December because that's when we're not playing. Yeah, it's not. I mean, you got to go somewhere. And I've never been to Europe, Smiley. So my goal was to have some great weeks and start planning a honeymoon and maybe just vanish for two weeks. So we're going to do that. We're going to we're looking at kind of the middle weeks of July. We've already started a little bit of planning. Great. But in that, that does still allow me, I think two or three more corn fairy starts. And then maybe I do maybe play, I think I'll be close to getting in on my number. And I would assume I have a decent chance of getting an exemption now, maybe Detroit and John here. And then just kind of vanish for two, two and a half weeks. And then rest recharge. Obviously, enjoy the life that I'm going to, you know, have started with my new wife and then get back and then I'll probably hunker down and play the corn fairy tour and try to try to get that number one spot. But yeah, I mean, it's it's obviously nice to have these results. I remember my wife went in Kansas City and, you know, hug and kiss off the green after I won. And then she said, does this mean we get to do the do the honeymoon now? And I was like, yeah, you know, I might need one more result to really lock this in. And then sure enough, the next week I went again. And I remember grabbing my phone before all the, all the hoopla starts and texted her an extra little bit or two. I said, let's plan that belief in honeymoon. Let's go. So we're going to, we're going to enjoy that for sure. But yeah, I maybe do one or two PGA tour events. I would imagine I'll get some of the some starts in the fall too. Great. But try to get that number one spot because it gets rewarded very, very nicely. It sure does. And you just got to love it when a good plan comes together and congrats to you and your bride as well. I know that'll be a very fun honeymoon. Europe's great. And I think Europe will be excited to see a very nice deep V neck and some Ray bands of Harry Higgs making his way down and probably eating some nice thin crust pizza over there. The only thing that I wanted out of the honeymoon was I wanted to eat a bowl of posse, old bowl of pasta in Italy, which I would assume also, you know, there's some pizza involved too. But yeah, well, we'll take the Parmesan cheese. Yeah, yeah, a little bit of pepper on there too. Yeah. Yeah. We'll take red pepper for sure. Yeah. A little, a little white red wide to pair it with. Yeah, why not? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not even a big wine guy, but I could see myself drinking plenty of it in the roughly two plus weeks that were there. We're going to try to make a stop at Wimbledon too. I've never done that. Oh, good for y'all. Yeah, it's, uh, it'll be a lot of fun. It'll be a lot of fun. I've never, I mean, I've been playing professional golf for 10 years. I've never taken voluntarily taken two plus weeks off in the middle of a season, but boy, am I excited to do that? Just go do it, man. Just do it. Get that face off healed up a lot matter by then. Go play well the next couple of weeks, months, and we'll definitely be watching cheering you on. And we look forward to seeing that picture of a bowl of pasta on your Instagram. Yes. That will be bowl of pasta glass of red wine. Perfect. All right, Harry, thanks for coming on, buddy. You got it. Well, thank you. Appreciate it, smiling. Man, what a fun conversation with Harry Higgs spanning so many different directions. I was just sitting in the background and doing every moment of that going from, you know, some truly heartfelt thoughts on, on Grayson Murray. I loved his, I did them to what he originally said in the wake of his win at the visit Knoxville open of just saying something nice to yourself as well. So I thought that was really cool. And then going from Girl Scout cookies to the WA and reliving that, I mean, just he just is such a fun conversation. So very appreciative to Harry for taking the time. But now we transition to, as promised in our episode, open the week, our RBC Canadian open one and done pics. We did not file at that moment. I just wasn't, I wasn't ready. I have to miss I've backed back miss cuts now. You're you're opening up a little bit of a lead here. You got 22.3 points last week for Justin Rose. I got zero for Austin that growth. So you now have 2,391 points and change and I have 2,152. So let's go to close gap and I need another win. So here, let me, let me start us here. Okay. I'm going to give you everybody on this odds board that's 30 to one and shorter. So we'll start with you see Rory Zodz compared to the next best. I sure did. Those look like Scottie eyes to me. It's like plus 350 plus 400. And the next guy's plus 16 plus 18, I think that's correct. So we'll work our way down from 30 to one. Adam Scott is 30 to one Sam Burns, 25 to one, Cam Young, 25 to one, Shane Lowry, 25 to one, Alex Norton, 22 to one, Corey Connors, 22 to one. So hit the gala, 18 to one, Tommy Fleetwood, 16 to one, and Rory McElroy, plus 360, which is, you know, 3.6 to one or however you want to quantify that. It's short. It's very, very short. So those are your kind of contenders. I am picking first here. I need a big momentum shift, but I also need like an inspirational story. I need something to get the fans of Charlie Nation, you know, back believing again. And here's how I'm going to do it. We saw Tommy Fleetwood come up. Oh, so short last year. And this event in the playoffs in search of that first PGA tour win. I'm, I'm believing this year. This is the year when Tommy lad is going to get it done, get his first PGA tour win. I'm taking Tommy Fleetwood to win the Canadian Open. Okay. I love it. I love it. You love it. Yeah. I love it when although to be fair, I think you said you love it to every pick I've made thus far, which is very kind of you and gracious, but I'm not so sure it's that it's actually compliment these days. So a good fit. I've already taken Tommy. So he wasn't even on my board of guys I was considering, even though he's second or third on the odds board, but a good pick. I think the hard thing about the RBC Canadian Open is that the courses change. And that I think we kind of group players into what their strengths are versus what the course, you know, fits as far as what their games go. But I mean, I feel like Tommy's game fits just about anywhere he goes. He's played well in Canada. So I like your pick. Well, there you have it. So now we have to figure out who was, who was your pick? I'm, I'm between three guys. And I'm between Shane Lowry, who in 2019 finished second to worry, I'm between also Alex Norin, who is a player that you were surprised by his odds at 22 to one. He has been playing really well this year. And I think the one thing that surprised me about his stats was that he's leading the tour in bogey avoidance. Him and Scotty are like one, two in that. So he's giving himself a lot of opportunities to make birdies if it's the week that is putter, what's they get taught. Alex Norin could get it done. The other one is I just, I keep this guy. He just keeps stuffing the stat sheet. And that's Aaron Rye. He's, he's like the sixth man that just, you know, he's, he's in the top 15, top 20 so often. And I don't think he's been in enough in contention for people to have him as a guy that could win this week. But if you go and look at his results and look at his stats, he's a guy that could just, you know, put it all together, just really just a couple of percentage points a little better in each area. And he's winning golf tournaments. He's currently 35 to one, 35 outside that 30 to one. Yeah. I think I'm going to settle in with, with, I was going to pick Shane Lowry, Aaron Ryan's a guy that I would like to pick. But I think I'm going to go with the safest option in Alex Norin. Alex Norin love that. I mean, he's a guy. I have another format I play where you pick three guys. And he's one of the guys that I have in that collection. Because I just, you know, to your point, he's been playing really good. So there you have it. So Alex Norin for Smiley, Tommy Fleetwood for me. We need some mojo here. Here's how I know the picks have been going bad is that my buddy who texts me every week for picks is like, stop texting me. So it's like a little wake up call. Hey, we need to get back on track here. So those are your Canadian open picks. And we'll, of course, be back here with a recap of the Canadian open on Sunday night and a recap of Hope Valley member member, which by the way, as you were doing the interview with Harry, I wrote down his his little notes. We're going to write those down on my little pinch sheet every day, try to stay in the zone and then give Harry a little credit if we get this thing done. What happens if you've just been shaking wedges and you can't think of a positive outcome? That's the only thing I wanted to ask. Yeah, I know like staying positive gets hard when when you're hitting off the hosel. I, you know, I think I'm going to put it out there in the universe. I'm going to be positive. I think we're past the wedge shanks. We found something on the range of sandhills. I feel very, very confident. If we can just, you know, keep it a play off the tee and just hit it close. You know, I'm getting a few shots. Just, just get a few, you know, make par everywhere. That'll get you somewhere in this tournament. So that's, that's kind of the goal. All right. Well, I think it's time for me. Rosie's ready to start playing. My old gold retriever, she said enough of this. It's time for Charlie to wrap this thing up and I got to go through the zoomies with old rosy girl. Let's wrap it up. If you're listening to this, it's time for you to take your dog out for a walk and play fetch, whatever it is that you might do. But we appreciate you watching the listening and we will be back here with the Canadian Open Recap very soon. Talk to you then. [BLANK_AUDIO]