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We get deep on this one, but what a powerful episode with Jacob Newton, who is a mentor performance coach now, but he's had quite the career, grew up in California, played his junior hockey in the U.S.H.L. before going to Northeastern for one year. After that one year, he signed an NHL contract with the Anaheim Ducks and then went on to play nine seasons of professional hockey, but his journey is one that we'll talk about here in the intro. It has a lot of dark places in it, a lot of dark places in it, and what he's been able to do to handle those tough places and come out on the other side is absolutely incredible. This is an inspiring episode. We get into a lot of stuff. We get really vulnerable on this one. Before we do get over to Jacob though, let's bring on the talent of the podcast, the one Jeffrey Jay, who, man, Lavecchio Vex. What's up today, dude? What's up, dude? I'm pretty stoked, man. Been a cool week here for me the last week since the last podcast we did because I had two guys that I worked with, signed new deals, NHL deals, Joseph Wall and Josh Dunn. Just two of the best human beings too, like two just really, really good people. I know you know Josh Dunn because you recruited him, just a great family he comes from and had lunch with him today. He just signed his new deal, so that was really cool. He's not staying in St. Louis this summer. He's moving in with his girl, but we went out to lunch while he's back for a couple days here. Good people succeed. There's just nothing better, especially the guys who work so hard for it and are good people on top of it, so really, really, really happy for both, for both Dunner and Joseph and, you know, teams they signed with got good dudes and just really cool to see people's dreams come true. You know, I guess just there's nothing better, so it was a pretty cool week. That's unreal. All I can think about when you said that was Hollen Oates. You make a month please come true. And who does that make you think of? The Maple Leafs. For me, it makes me think. For me, it makes me think of Muncie, because that's like such a Muncie too. Oh, yeah. It's 80. Yeah. Like a little bit of a dance vibe to it. Shimming it around. Both of us just did that. If you're watching on YouTube, that's what we meant to watch. Love you, Muncie. Oh, man. That's awesome. Well, happy. I mean, it's past this, but happy Canada Day to all our neighbors up north, happy fourth of July to everybody here in the States for all of our service members and first responders. We do not have the ability to celebrate July 4th had it not been for all your sacrifice. So it's a special special holiday. And yeah, I am not there yet, but we'll have been by the time this podcast comes out off to New Jersey to go see the, the in-laws and yeah, excited for that man, always good to be your own family, you know, hell yeah, hell yeah, America, America. Um, man, this, this, this was a, this was an episode, dude, like this was an episode powerful in so many ways, so much great information and then it obviously gets heavy and, and then dark and then brightened up with just Jake's light, like this guy's awesome. I've known him for over a decade now. Um, really, just a really, really genuinely a good dude and he's putting out a lot of good in the world. And I just think that this intro should be short because we got to get, like you guys need to listen to this. It's so, it's so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so good. Yeah. And just as a disclaimer here for, for the kids or for the parents that are listening in the car, you know, some of the tougher stuff that we talk about with Jacob and his journey, um, has to do with some child abuse when he was young and, um, so I think it's important to, to kind of make that disclaimer and just in case, you know, you don't feel comfortable and particularly sexual abuse as a kid. So, um, we, we give a disclaimer on the episode of kind of when that starts, when we start asking about that and how amazing of, of Jake to, to be so open and be so vulnerable about a topic that, uh, is a lot more prevalent. I think than people know or think, um, and, and something that like, you know, people go through and, and so, you know, what a, what an amazing person for talking about it. So publicly, uh, on this podcast and it's going to help a lot of people and, and you're, you're so right. You know, we get into some dark spaces, but, um, it ends up with a lot of light, man. It ends up with a lot of light and, and not only, you know, from what's called a mental health standpoint, but he's also a mental performance coach too and, and provides a lot of tools and especially like mental health and mental performance. A lot of times they're, they're very hand in hand, right? Very hand in hand. And so, uh, this is just an episode that's going to affect so many people in a positive way. Um, it was amazing. It was amazing. So, uh, with that, we have some people to thank before we do get over to Jacobs conversation. First people we want to thank is our title sponsor and ice hockey systems.com best website out there for all of your coaching education needs, thousands of drills, whiteboard explanations from high level hockey people, a drill drawing tool where you can go in and drop your drills, practice plan, send them out to your team before practice, send them out to your parents. 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He's in the beautiful Cleveland, Ohio area right now, but born and raised in sunny California. Jacob newt and Jake, how are we doing today doing good brother doing good. Thank you so much for this opportunity to with the pleasure to meet you last week and VEX obviously I know you for quite some time, but just truly grateful guys for this opportunity to come and share some stuff with you guys. I love it, man. Well, typically when we get some people who've got a bit of a history with VEX on first thing I'll ask them if you got any good stories, they got any good embarrassing stories about our man over here or what? You know, you know, when I when I first met him, I think it was the summer of 2013 or 2014. I know he was still in his career. I was new into the St. Louis area. So I was very much just show up and work hard. I didn't really chime in, but I obviously just remember being the one of the hardest workers. It's not the hardest working guy. That's why I just love him and all of his content. Yes, we're boasting them up a little bit. That's the very best. That's what's on the goal horn. I was about to mute you. Hey, hey, you know, we we asked, you know, we'll ask new tier at the end of the show, like 10 questions. What's the best compliment you can give someone? For me, I think it's you're always the hardest worker in the room, you know, like it doesn't take skill that doesn't, you know, like it's but it takes you got to bring it every day. And that's just something when somebody says that about me when I played like that is what I care about more than literally anything else. I'm like, well, that was always my goal, you know, so honestly, that made me happy and yeah. Excited for this one. This is going to be a big one. People stay tuned for this one here. Vex coming fresh off first anniversary with the wife, you know, you know, buzzing in the gym. Couple of his boys signed some nice tickets this week. Why? Legit tickets. Yeah. You see Donner's money? No, what? Donner get. I don't want to talk about it. I mean, it's all out there. But he got two years. Yeah. He got two years. The second first year H.L. Money is two way or one way, two way first year, but guaranteed a lot of money. And then second year, one way with Buffalo. So yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Awesome. And then obviously Joe Wall signed 13 sheets, three years, 13 mill. I want to say it was so pretty and Trent Frederick's got one more year on his bridge deal. He's going to be has one more year like like he has the last two boys are buzzing. I'm loving it. Awesome. Well, speaking of buzzing, newts, one of the first things that we ask all of our guests that come on here just to kind of introduce you to our audience is, you know, we're big on the passion of the game and love in the game. And so grew up in California, not necessarily a hockey hotbed when you were growing up, but what made you fall in love with this great game? Hockey. So I think it was actually just I was born into it. It's in my blood being half Canadian. I was born in Arizona and immediately after we moved up to La Duke, Alberta, three years later moved to sunny desert, California, where there was no ice drinks and I actually started out in roller hockey. So, so yeah, again, being half Canadian, I really had no other option. There were other, no other sports that my siblings were playing. It's amazing, Vex, how many people we've had on here, particularly from like non-traditional markets that got their start in hockey in roller hockey, eh? Like how many people have we had on here that have either played in the NHL or gotten pretty damn close that are from some of those areas, but played roller hockey? Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. Like a ton. It's really cool. Because I feel like the NHL was pushing that like when we were kids like in the 90s. I feel like when Mighty Ducks was out and well, they had that pro league out in California too, right? With the ramp behind the ramp and it was a ball. Yeah. It wasn't even a puck. It was a ball, wasn't it? Yeah, I think so. Yes, it was. Wild. P V H, was it? Pro B Chalky? I think so. Sick name. Pro B H. Who came up with that name? Another way, it made its way on to ESPN. Yeah, it did. That bad. Wild. That was really good. Hey, it was good enough for Rob Blake to plan it. So we'll take it. Ooh, who's that? Yeah. Some old wash up, right? So if you have some advice, you know, we'll get through your journey in hockey because it's taking you to a lot of pretty cool places. But like if you had any advice to a kid that's coming out of one of those smaller, maybe non-traditional markets, the Arizona's, the California's, the Seattle's now, the Florida's, you know, I think St. Louis maybe has graduated out of that. I think LA's probably graduated out of that too. But what would you have for some advice for some kids coming from those areas? You know, because again, it's so much different now when I was growing up in the '90s plan, you know, youth hockey, compared to what it is now. Back then, we didn't have all the social media, elite prospects, live barn. But even then, I would say that it's so much more difficult for players to get to the levels that they want to get to, or at least say they want to get to, if they don't have a clear direction on where they want to go with the game. Regardless of what level that is, I think without identifying where it is you want to go, there is no purpose behind what it is that you're doing. So I think through that, you show up a lot of the times and you're only putting in half the effort that you need to be putting in. But when you have direction and purpose behind what you're doing, it's a lot more likely that you're going to show up and put in the work that's necessary to get to those levels. But again, that's not defined for so many players, they're just going out there and going through the motion. So I would say to again, get clear on where it is you want to take the sport. So let's get into that because that's a really awesome topic. And I know you do a lot of work with athletes with this, like four athletes that need a little bit of direction that maybe don't have a purpose yet. What are some things that they can do, or what are some things that their parents or potentially coaches can do to help them to find that direction, to find that purpose? Whether that's being an actual hockey player, whether that's doing something great in some other aspect of their life, what are some things or what are some reflection pieces maybe that they can do to really kind of find that? Well, first, I think it has to come from the individual. So it's nice to be there and to have other people's support and help in that process. But I think again, it has to come from them because they're the ones they're going to have to be putting in the work to get to those places. But again, for me growing up, it was always the NHL. Whether or not that was possible for me, I didn't know. But what I did know is that there were people at that level and that was all the proof I needed to know that it was possible for me. But for these players, again, regardless of what level you're at, I think it's just so important to give yourself time to be still. And that can be five minutes, that can be 10 minutes to just close your eyes and just analyze. So here I am at this level, if that's single AA, double AA doesn't matter. But here's where I want to get to. If that's single AA, then let's just go to double AA and that can be more of your short term goal. But I think it's very important that everybody has a big picture goal because I think that's like your compass. Right? And then we've got those short term goals that are going to help us to create more momentum to reach that big ticket goal, you know? But again, I think in this day and age, everybody's constantly lost in doing, doing, doing. I think we have to be given ourselves time to just be, be in silence, be in stillness to really get clear opposed to what this is telling us, what other people are doing. So again, I think the biggest part there is sitting in meditation for a little bit, five minutes, 10 minutes, doesn't need to be anything crazy. Dude, you're so right. And I hope there's a lot of people who are driven, particularly in this hockey world who are listening to this, because I feel like I'm at my worst when I'm just checking things off a list and I'm just doing, doing, doing, doing, I feel like I'm at my best when I take some time, whether it's out of a day, out of a week, maybe something bigger out of a month, where I'm just kind of sitting there and just kind of thinking, thinking about stuff. And Vex, I've told you this too, and Jake, like you're a fit dude. I feel like I always do my best thinking when I'm exercising, like without a podcast in, without music, maybe music, but like, my best thinking is done when I have like nothing in my ears. And I'm just like, for me, I love rollerblading. So we go back to roller hockey, like I don't really like run in, it's not great on the hips and the knees, but like when I get rollerblading, and I like, all of a sudden I come home, and I feel like I have like nine different ideas of things that we can do. Vex, I know you're probably pretty excited about that, but what do you, I want to picture this, I've got a picture of my head. It's kind of funny. I'm not going to lie though. I don't want to know. What do you, what are you rocking? What are you wearing when you're rollerblading down the streets of Chicago? Just like a shirt and shorts and yeah, for those of you who don't know, Tobe's got some serious leg flow. So that leg here must be blown in the wind. I'm wearing jorts to gene shorts, total gene shorts, Fanny pack, I got, I got socks coming up to my knees. Wait a minute. What? We'll go, we'll go back to this. What kind of roller blades are you rocking? Fancy. Not really. Just regular hours. Yeah. Yeah. Like, people were talking about hockey. Yeah. No, Bauer figure skates them. Wow. They make roller blades and then they make like, you take your hockey boot and you put a chassis on it. So what? Chassis. It's what it's attached to the wheels. Don't even know. I've never heard of that. Okay. All right. I'm not going to stop her on your roller blades. Anyway, back to the roller blade. That I don't, that I promise you, I don't know. Back to the stillness. To the stillness. Anyway, back to you, Jacob. So like, I feel like, and that's, I feel like almost like the curse of a high achiever sometimes is like, we're, we're so good at grinding, you know, grinding gets us so far. But at the end of the day, I feel like grinding almost gives us a ceiling. And when we take a step back and look at things from a 10,000 foot view and you talk about stillness and meditation and just kind of being, it can, it can hire that ceiling for the really high achieving people who are so good at work and then they've gotten so much success, success because they've worked. So what are your thoughts on that? Yeah. I, you know, again, a lot of the times I'll speak on just my firsthand experience with this stuff. And for myself, I found that the more willing I was to just sit in that stillness, it made it a lot easier for me to be honest with myself. And I think when it comes to recovery, you know, again, going, going, going and I really found out more about this once I moved away from America and went over to Europe to play in Finland, especially. I was so lost in like the North American style of just go, go, go, go, go, go. And I found that every day I was showing up to the gym and maybe I didn't have the best strength coaches back then, I don't know, but I was young and I was trying to prove myself, you know, but I found that every day I showed up to the gym, to the rink, I was always coming in at like 60%, 70%, it was very rare where I showed up feeling optimal. So therefore, I could put in the effort again that I know was required of me to stand out amongst the other guys. And so it took me going over to Finland and working with a strength and conditioning coach there that really got me to understand the importance of not only just working hard but working smart, you know, and really honing in on the recovery. And those were some of the first years that I started tapping into breathing and breathing properly and understanding the importance of that in true recovery. And I don't think you can recover unless you're breathing properly in a parasympathetic way, which affects, obviously, I know you're a big advocate for, you know. So yeah, again, I think, go ahead. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, again, it's the recovery is everything had I been recovering properly in my first few years as a pro, then perhaps I would have been showing up feeling better, but I wasn't being properly educated on it. So I was trying to figure it out all out on my own. And I was lost and eating unhealthy and not sleeping properly. And again, I know these are things that play a massive role in that recovery, but I just I you don't know what you don't know. And I didn't know, you know, yeah, that's so true. And with that, Vex, I'll let you get into this. I want to make a point really quick here. This is the second interview we've done in a row where a strength coach has changed the trajectory of somebody's thought process of where they going in their career. You know, like strength coaches are the best. Strength coaches are people who can really, truly like the good ones, like legitimately change your life, both physically and like work habit, mentally, emotionally wise. And so I we had Andrew Alberts on last week, newts. And same thing, like he got cut guy got cut from his fricking high school hockey team at 15 years old and a strength, it took a strength coach to believe in him at that age and he goes on to play 450 games in the NHL. You know, here you're talking about how a strength coach changed the way that you thought. And I'm sure you're still using a lot of the things today that he taught you when you were over in Finland. So like, I don't know, my boy, Vex has done that. I'm sure with a lot of different people. So we've tired pumped him enough today, but I'll, I'll tire pump him one more time here because it's true man, like strength coaches are so important. Well, and newts out Alberts, he didn't only get cut from his high school team, then the same year he got cut from the double A team. And then the A team, he played B hockey at 15 was in the NHL by, I would assume it was 23, 24, like that, yeah, four, 450 games, pretty cool. But like, you know, guys with Jake's taught about breathing, been Mike Boyle on the podcast and he said something and I've never forgot it, you know, we, we take like 10 to 20,000 breaths a day. So if you get a little bit better at breathing, you're going to 10 to 20 X, 1000 X every rep. Like it's like, Oh my God, if it's just a little bit better, a little bit more efficient, you know, gets you out of a sympathetic state into a parasympathetic, sympathetic state, meaning fight or flight into rest and digest when our body can heal and recover and do all these processes we need so that we can recover and work out and work tomorrow and play hockey and all these things, like it makes a massive impact. And like Newt said here, you know, and this is, you know, true of all three of us on this podcast age talking like we were taught to like work hard, work hard, work hard, but it wasn't like really, really, really dialed in on sleep, breathe, eat, hydrate and like the right ways like not just do it, do it well, because guys, everybody listening, the easiest and fastest and you will see immediate benefits if you breathe, sleep, and eat better. And you're doing all three of those things every single day all the time. If you just do them a little bit better, you stratify that over a day, a week, a month, a year, years, the amount of reps you're getting where you can get better every time is you can make a lot of gains on people. And I would say to add on to that is that in regards to the breathing, so many people are unaware of their breath. So they don't even understand that they're shallow breathing, very shallow into the upper part of their lungs, which is consistently keeping them in what Vek said there in that fight or flight mode, even when they're not working out where when we're working out, that's a place you want to be, right, it primes you to be explosive to be, you know, attack essentially, you know, but as soon as we're out of that, we have to get ourselves into that parasympathetic breathing, excuse me, engaging the diaphragm, breathing deep into your belly. And if you're not doing that, in my opinion, you can't recover. You can do all of this stuff after you can sleep properly. You can, you can eat the best foods, right? You can do the normatec pants. But if your breath isn't communicating to your mind that you're safe, you can't heal, you can't recover, you know? And so again, it's shallow. Your mind's lessened, it's paying attention, and it's keeping you in that chronic stress state, and there's no recovery there. That chronic stress state's a tough place to be. That's a tough place to be. And for everyone, I mean, like the anxiety levels for everybody is like going up, you know, it seems like day after day with the way that our world is nowadays, like how, and you've done, and we'll get into your journey in a little bit, but like you've done a lot of work, a lot of research on these kinds of things, like for the people that feel chronically stressed, and usually it ties in mentally, emotionally, physically, it's all bundled into one, right? What would be some suggestions or some advice, I mean, you talked about breathing here, but like to get out of that, like chronic stress state. I think the vehicle to take you there is your breath. I think all too often we're searching externally for things, and we've lost sight of the power that we already possess. Everybody has access to their breath. We just haven't been taught properly on how to use it to our advantage. And right now, because we are shallow, we're staying in that, you know, fight or flight mode, high stress state, we're also also keeping ourselves in a high inflammatory state as well. So you can go and eat all the anti-inflammatory foods. That's great. That's going to help to a certain degree, but it's your breath that's going to take you to where you want to go, you know, and then so what I use for my clients is I don't just get them straight into the breathing techniques that I use because they're more advanced. They need a basis and the very basis for me that I use is have them laying down and I know Vex does this too, have them laid down, put their feet up on a wall or up on the couch. And when you're calm, you put your left hand on your belly and you're just breathing into your hand. And that's going to get you to understand, okay, I'm guiding my breath into my belly. If you need to, you constrict your throat, which makes it a lot easier. And then what I'm learning is that by placing your tongue on the roof of your mouth that turns all the systems on so that you're actually getting the benefits from the breathing techniques. But if that doesn't help, I also ask them to visually see a set of nostrils on their stomach and they're breathing in through the nostrils and out through the nostrils. Love that. Wow. Wow. Thinking about that right now, that is money when I can't, something that helped me. So it's just when I coach my guys, I'm like, when we're, when we're post workout, post training, breathing or I'm just teaching them how to breathe anytime after a game or stress or school or whatever, I'm always saying if you're, if your brain is racing, it's going to affect your heart rate. It's going to affect your breath rate, right? So like something that always helped me was as I'm inhaling, seeing big numbers like behind my head, one, two, three, for like box breathing, pause, one, two, three out, you know, that, that really helped me. I've never heard that nostro cue. That is genius. I'll give you credit every day. I use it, but I'm going to start using it. It just really helps it again, bringing the visual aspect to it, you know, really helps to bring that in. And you know, there's so many other things that I've learned and I think I'm getting away from what the original question was, but again, I think the breath is everything. You want to be in the moment, your breath will take you there, you know, opposed to getting lost in the thinking in between shifts or in between reps and practice, anchor into your breath and that'll keep you here and now. But it's when we get lost in the mistake that was just made or the worry about what coach is thinking or what my teammates are thinking. You're weakening yourself. You're giving up energy. We got to be keeping that and keeping it to our advantage. That's actually something that really was a pivotal thing. I learned that helped me the rest of my career when I was 18. I've talked about on the podcast before I was playing an Omaha basically one of my teammates died in my hands in a car accident and they brought in a psychologist to talk to the guys who were involved in the accident and he gave me the CD and on the CD there was a track that was helping me fall asleep every night, but there was also five like performance tracks and I met with the guy and he talked to me about breathing and how I can control, you know, your emotions and all this stuff. So when I was 18, my second year in the USHL, every time I would come back to the bench in games, I used to like stay standing up and, you know, hunched over and, you know, just like, just like not recovering and I would come back to the bench after this happened and I learned about breathing through the CD and meeting with this guy and I would sit down. I would close my eyes and I would take three slow deep breaths. I did this like the rest of my career and it really, really, really helped me, I think, like more than a lot of other things that I did every day, you know, with all the different things trying to be healthy. That was something that really helped me, especially if I made a mistake out there, you know, I'm somebody like Toph, we always talk about this. We're really hard on ourselves, too hard, you know, and like I like you said, it anchors you, it anchored me back, I could replay the play in my head and see myself doing it correctly, which I learned to do later on in my career, but I did that breathing thing from 18 on every time I'd come back to the bench or close to and it really helped guys like listen to newts here because like it's like, oh, breathing. Oh, that's not a big deal. What massive deal? Well, if you think about it, too, I mean, it's funny having kids and newts. I don't know if you think this too, but like kids always bring us back to like the most simplest of basics of things in life. And like, if you don't breathe, you don't survive, like you need to breathe to live. And so like you were saying like, if you can do it better, it's going to help you live. Same thing, like you need to eat to survive. So the better you eat, the more you're going to be able to survive. You need to sleep to survive, you know, so just breaking it, breaking it back to like just even the simplest of terms, man, like, yeah, the breath, but dude, you guys just gave our listeners and myself like so much good stuff to be able to like better ourselves. I love it. I got one more because I know there's a lot of coaches that listen to this and this is something that I used when I was coaching, especially the younger kids, they get injured out on the ice. If they stay on the ice, don't go out to them and tell them to stop crying if they're crying. Get them to look you in the eyes and have them breathe with you. I guarantee you within five to 10 seconds, they have stopped crying. They are up and they're ready to go back to the bench. But when they're crying, what are they not doing when they're freaking out about the pain, they're holding their breath, they're being shallow, which is just amplifying the pain to get them to breathe properly and you'll get into the bench quicker. So much quicker. And then the game can go on. So don't do what my squirt double a coach did. And if somebody is laying on the ice and practice, because they were hurt, they literally put cones around them, and we just did the practice with that kid just laying down. No, no, no joke, no, I mean, he was fine, right? Like it was like a kid that like, you know, what is it? The cry wolf thing, you know, I've always heard whatever. And so one time he was just like put cones around them and that was it. Like didn't say anything. Just put cones around them. We continued with practice had to scare on the cones. That is cool. They were cones. They were cones. Oh, God. Okay, nudes, let's bring this, let's bring this conversation to some, to some other stuff that we wanted to talk about with you here today and, and for the parents that are listening, you know, this might be a time if you have some younger kids in the car, just a little bit of a trigger warning, we're going to talk about some deeper, darker type stuff here. But you know, your journey to where you are right now and, and getting really educated and becoming passionate about these things that we're talking about, particularly in the healing process, you know, there's, there's a story behind that and there's a journey for you to get here. And you've done a lot of work on yourself to get to where you are today and gotten through some really tough, trying dark times, you know, from childhood all the way on. And so, you know, I think big picture for me, first question I have for you, you know, I think a lot of us in some of us really, really, really tough stuff that we're going through, some of us maybe not as tough, but we still feel like we're going through some tough stuff, right? What led you on this journey of healing? Not enough of us really take the time to heal from emotional, physical, sexual abuse, trauma, whatever kind of trauma you've been through. So talk to us a little bit about, you know, your journey and kind of how you got to where you are in your healing journey today. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. You know, so I've gone through three catastrophic events in my life. The one from childhood I'll eventually get into, but it wasn't until 18 years later from that situation that my second catastrophic events. So before I even get to that, I'm going to jump straight to the second one because that's what opened me up to understanding that something was deeply wrong with me or not wrong with that something deeply within me needed to be worked on. And it took for me stepping out on my then wife, the mother of my children, I had in the fair in our marriage. And it was her willingness to stay with me, her belief in me, and she saw the potential in me that opened me up to go to talk therapy. So after I made that decision, again, her staying with me, I had a decision to make. I'm either going to go down the path of healing or I'm going to continue going down the path of self destruction, which I was on and I was deeply in that path. So again, I went through three years of talk therapy and it really got me to understand that now I'll tie it into the sexual abuse that I experienced as a child from the ages of five to seven by my adopted cousin. We adopted three cousins after my mother's brother had passed away, leaving behind history kids and wife. She wasn't fit to be a mother at all, let alone a single mother. So we brought them in and the only way you would know if that type of situation had happened to these three kids is you ask those questions, those questions weren't asked. So we brought three people in and the eldest of the three, he was around the age of 1617 when I was five. And that's when it kind of all started and it took place for two full years at the, like, some of the deepest, most impressionable years of when our subconscious mind is essentially being programmed. And so it happened at my childhood home in San Jacinto, California, where I still had family living there up until two years ago. So again, now me now fast forward again into me making my decision in my marriage. That's when about four or five sessions in to talk therapy, we were going as a couple. It went from the conversation being about our relationship and about her to quickly think shifting to me and understanding the tension that I was bringing into my marriage that again was rooted in my childhood. And so I started working on it, working on it, working on it. But what I aim to find out is that talk therapy was not providing me with the tools to truly free myself from those experiences because I had so much emotional energy attached to it still. I was doing a lot of talking about it and that was very powerful, but that really opened up the door for me to understand I need to be going deeper. I need to get to the energy that stuck somewhere in my body. And so then it took for me then getting divorced, the third catastrophic event to me opening up a book after that and that book is called The Untethered Soul. My book has forever changed the relationship I have with my mind and therefore with my life. That got me to learn about meditation, visualization, my inner roommate constantly going on. But there was still one thing that I feel I was provided with that God provided me with this tool to understand that in order for me to truly free myself from my childhood, I have to be willing to go back to those experiences, sit in meditation and take myself back to the exact moment where these things were being done to me by my cousin in the rooms that they were done in. And so I've done that and I did that and I did that consistently. And I knew that it was working when I went back to my childhood home when my family was still living there. And I went into the bathroom where a lot of things were done. And I sat myself down in meditation and I brought those same memories back up, sat there and nothing inside of me was shifting, no energy was coming up, no pain, no anger, no animosity, no malice whatsoever. And that's how I knew okay, whatever I was doing, I understand what it is now, but before I understood and began learning about what that was, I was already doing it naturally. And I know that that was a gift that's just been a part of me my whole life. So I know that's some deep stuff there, but I know I kind of went all over the place I was trying to make sure I had brought it all together. But what I've learned in my journey is that essentially all of our adult problems are rooted in childhood. And that's like the roots and everything that comes after the first seven to eight years of your life or all of the layers. And so many people are living within these layers of everything that they're not all of the anxiety, the depression, the sadness, the whatsoever is all these layers. And if you can peel those back and get back to the root of those things, you no longer need to live within those layers and on the surface. So many of my problems were surface level problems. And I was getting lost on the surface, not understanding, I got to go deeper. And once I began going deeper, I was able to truly heal myself from the addictions that I formed from the root, the drinking like I did in junior hockey, the smoking weed, the chewing tobacco, the womanizing, the getting lost. And hook up culture. All of these things were just symptoms of the root. And once I got there, I don't participate in those things anymore. That's such good stuff, man. And particularly for us dudes, the way that we were brought up, we were told just bury it, man. Just bury it. Don't think about it. And just be a man, tough it out, like this shit shouldn't affect you. And in reality, that's impossible, particularly when you're going through the type of trauma that you went through. And I'm very interested in a lot of these types of therapies and healing procedures and ways of thinking as well. And like, you're so right, so much of the research, so much what people are talking about today is like, no, you have to deal with it. This is not something that you can just lock away because even if you like mentally have it locked away, it's still going to affect you in a lot of different ways physically. Um, reacting emotionally to potentially different situations and circumstances that arise. And so I'm particularly interested in, you know, when you did confront these demons that you had, how did you do it? And you know, you talked about how meditation was a big part of that, but like, how did that help you in your healing process and how hard was that for you to really look, look the devil, if that's what you want to call it in the eye, the things that had been affecting you for so many years that you didn't even know that this is why you were acting the way that you were, um, talk a little bit about that process and what you learned about yourself and what you learned about the healing process through, through really staring that devil in the eye. Yeah. Yeah. So I would say it was that year after my divorce, I was, I was over in Finland and this is the first year that again, I became aware of these more mindfulness practices, excuse me, mindfulness techniques, but it's actually interesting because I'm sitting with this book right in front of me, a creative meditation and manifestation book that I started implementing into my life that year. And one of the one of the tools that has the reader use is journaling on forgiveness. And so I know for me, such a big part of my healing was going to be me forgiving my cousin for doing what he did to me, not for him, but for me, right? I've never received an apology from him. And to be honest with you, I don't need it any longer. I have nothing but a deeper understanding into him and understanding that it was done to him as well. And so he was just continuing a cycle. And I'm grateful that the cycle fell on me so that I can put an end to it. So again, I think so much of the healing journey, not just for myself, but everybody that has experienced really any type of trauma, whether that's, you know, physical, sexual, emotional, or, you know, potentially parents that were neglecting you emotionally unavailable. There is forgiveness that needs to take place there and understanding that we all, regardless of what we do or what we say, we're all doing the very best we can based on our previous life experiences. And once I got to understand that, it really helped me to just take this weight off because I was trying to carry the weight of everybody else around me, not understanding that I'm not leaving enough for myself, I'm carrying too much weight, it's too heavy, you know. So again, forgiveness was certainly one of them. And then as I said, what I, exactly what I was doing, it was, it's kind of wild when I think about it because I didn't, there was no understanding. What I call it now is soul retrieval. I was retrieving my soul because a part of my soul was taken from me during those experiences. So what I would do, I would go, I'll go deeper into kind of what the meditation was. Again, I would sit down in meditation, I would take myself directly back to those experiences. So I'm no longer 27 year old, 63, 210 pound Jake. I am now five, six, seven year old, who knows how tall, who knows how much I weigh, that's irrelevant. But what I would do is I would start living the experiences again, and then I would visually see my adult self walking to me, protecting me, letting me know that I'm safe now, that I've got it from here, and just hugging myself, embracing myself, loving, again, my inner child, right, that we all have, we all have that inner child within us that didn't feel seen, didn't feel heard, didn't feel understood, right. So that's what I was doing. And the more I did that, again, the energy was moving throughout my body energy that I had felt before, but I didn't understand again where it was coming from. But once I got to the root of where it was coming from, now I understand, okay, this is energy that's been inside of me for 18 years, 19 years, and now me feeling it, that's how you can heal it. Because if you're not willing to feel it, how can you heal it, right? Because all too often what I was doing is I was suppressing it. I was pushing it away with the booze, with the weed, with hockey, with working out with all of these different things that yes, working out is healthy. It's good for you. Yes, hockey was good for me, but it was also a way for me to release chemicals within my body to create happiness, right? And so again, once that energy began to move, then I anchored into my breath and just breathe, just feel it, you're safe now, you're safe now, right? And the more I did that, again, it got to a point where that was no longer shifting. That's how I know that that energy was getting out of me. Does that make sense? So powerful, man. Yeah. Like, wow. Is that powerful, it's amazing what you've done and been able to break the cycle and all of that stuff. It's just, it's so freaking powerful. Yeah. Thanks, brother. And again, guys, like I didn't know that clearly there was a deeper knowing within me on what to do, but it was nothing that I studied. And that's why I can't take all the credit. God is, again, like provided me with that gift, you know, because there's so many people that are doing so much talk therapy, but they're not getting anywhere. They need to keep talking to the same person year after year after year. And again, where's the value? And I'm not saying that's true for all talk therapists because I know there are some out there that are using these different, more holistic type of techniques. But if there's true value, you shouldn't have to talk to this person for five years for 10 years because you're kind of keeping them stuck, keeping them in that mental prison that they're in. Yeah. I'm a big believer in therapy and I've been to a couple of different ones. I've been very open about that and the ones that I feel like I've had the most kind of like benefit from have been the ones where it's like, okay, let's get to the root of this. All right, I'm not going to just sit here and transactionally give you some strategies to help you do X, Y or Z to make you feel better because maybe it does for a day or whatever. But like it's really the understanding of where some of the trauma and some of the emotional pain come from. You did like when you have that, that really recognition of all the stuff that's been bottled inside of you for so long, especially when that emotional pain comes from those years that you were talking about, those formative years when you're three, maybe through seven years old, really getting to the root cause of that stuff and understanding and then that forgiveness piece of it is big too. Like I've had some emotional pain from some people in my life and that forgiveness piece is big. And sometimes these people who have emotionally abused you, whatever you want to call it, treated you like shit, you know, there's, there's different layers to that spectrum. You know, and man, a lot of the times of people who are doing that, maybe they don't even know they're doing it and, and, and by, and sometimes those people don't know they're doing it. And sometimes you don't know that they're doing it, but then you figure out years later when you do do some of this introspective stuff and like, that shit really affected me. Holy crap, you know, and, and getting to the root of that stuff and then providing yourself a little bit of grace and, and, and maybe even given the people who treated you that way a little, I don't want to say grace, but like forgiving them because you never know what they were going through either like, it's a, for at least in my healing process, that's been a big part of it. And it's hard to do, man, like that's the thing is like, it's really, really hard to peel back all those layers of the onion. And that's what I think a good therapist really does is really helps you to really peel that stuff back and get it into the nitty gritty of, you know, who you are and what happened and, and all that. So I'm so glad that you're on here and talking about this because we don't like, especially as men, like we don't talk about this stuff enough. We don't talk about this stuff enough again. The way that we were brought up, it's like, you know, be the tough guy and I think we should, you know, we got to be there and provide and that, you know, we got to do our duties, but like at the same time, like, we're just people like everybody else and we have issues like everybody else and the more that we can be open and vulnerable and talk about it in forums like this, the more we're going to be able to provide other people who may not that do have that emotional baggage sucked into their belly, you know, somewhere where they know it's there, but they, you know, it's, they don't want it to come out yet to go and get some help and go and talk about it and try to figure out how to, how to heal. These conversations are so important, man. They're so important. And I have so much appreciate you coming on here and sharing some of this stuff and not only being so open and vulnerable about your story, but also you've given us so many different things that we could potentially do. Number one, being go get some help. And number two, just some things that you can do tangibly on a day to day basis to help to uncover some of these things and, and, and help yourself on the healing journey. I think it's unbelievable. Yeah. Um, one thing I'll say too, to kind of, you know, tie it into hockey, um, is I remember saying to my cousin that if he didn't stop doing what he was going to do, I was going to tell my parents and how he responded, stopped me from ever saying anything. I was so close to doing it, but he said that if you do that, I'm going to beat you up and you may be in a six year old, he'd be in 16 17. He was very tall. He was a monster in my eyes, right? And that fear that he put into my eyes, I remember immediately after I was walking up the steps in my home and I can see where I grew up, you can see through each step and I could see straight down into the living room. And I was just staring straight at him thinking, if I don't do what I'm about to do tell my parents, he's going to beat me up. And again, that fear stopped me from ever doing it. I was 10 feet away from ending it and why I bring that up is because as soon as I moved away from home to play junior hockey at the age of 15, playing against 18 19 20 year olds, that's when the game, even though I was still able to perform at high levels, that's when the game became more of a burden to me. It was no longer my escape. It was just a more of a reminder of the things that I experienced because anytime there would be confrontation, whether that be in practice with the teammate or in a game against an opponent. When I froze, they became him and I became little Jake again, and I was never one to talk crap because I didn't know what to say anyhow, even if I would have. But again, I was just frozen in this traumatic state and it was no different after I signed but Anaheim, my first preseason game, there were six fights in that game. It was a bloodbath and every single time another fight took place, I got triggered and I had no idea what was happening and that was the worst thing. That I knew being 63 210 pounds that if somebody asked me to fight, I have to say yes. But I was scared. I was so scared. And so again, I bring that up just to not everybody experienced the things that I did, but I know there are a lot more people out there that have that play sport that are in some type of performance, whether that's athletics or in sales or it doesn't matter. We're all performing in something in our jobs, right, that again, that these things are coming up and because they don't know, they're afraid, they freeze, they fight or they flight, right? And I just, not everybody has to heal, I get that, but man, people can be living so much more joyful lives if they're just willing to go deeper. And as you said, men typically are the ones that are the most oppressed because for far too long, we've been told to suck it up, move on, let it go, turn the page, yes to all of those, but when there's no context, but behind how to do those things, it's very damaging as well and just continues those cycles of suppression because you're not giving them any context into how to do it. So what do they do? They do nothing and they continue doing the things that they've done up until that point that have left them very suppressed. Or they cope with addiction. Yeah. You mentioned that earlier. That's another. We just, we don't want to feel the feelings, man, like we don't want to feel the hard stuff. And when that hard stuff comes up and things start boiling to the surface, that's the easiest way for us to not have to is booze and drugs and anything else that's not healthy for you. That's so accessible to all of us nowadays. And yeah, man, you've given us some awesome insight into how to not have to do that. You went down that path, didn't work. And once you got deeper, now look at you, you're working with kids and you're working with teams on how to optimize performance and all that stuff. It's so cool because Vex and I talk so much about like, you know, it's not a setback. It's a setup. And you can use the tough stuff in your life to really vault you into doing some pretty special things from it. And I mean, I don't know if we've ever had a guest on here, Vex, that's done it at such a wide length, you know, how tough the situation was at the beginning and then where they're at now. So I just think that's awesome that you've been able to take the hard and really, I don't want to say use it, but you've used a lot of that experience to shape who you are now and really help people on their journeys. It's awesome. Yeah. Thank you. And go ahead. Go ahead, Vex. It's just I never want to compare anybody's hard to anybody else's heart, but like you sit here and you listen to Jake and what he's been through. And, you know, like Jake said, I've known him for probably a little over 10 years and used to see him quite often in the summers skating with him and stuff and never knew he went through any of this stuff, you know, and that's, that's, that's tough. And anytime I think about you, I think about that, like, oh man, I didn't even know you were going through that stuff. We're at the rink skating, whatever, like just no idea. But then to see where you're at now and see the impact you have, you know, anytime you speak, whether it's on your social media or, you know, something like this, like, there's a, there's a light that like radiates from you. So I'm just happy you're doing what you're doing now and able to, like Toph said, you know, use, use the bat to find a way to, to put good out there. Yeah. Thanks, brother. And again, you know, it's, I don't get down with the comparing either because my, my heart is, is that's mine, you know, like your guys is hard, it carries a certain weight just because my experiences are perceived as more difficult. Sure, but that's a societal thing, you know, what you guys have gone through is, is hard for you guys. And, and I'm not sitting here trying to minimize anybody's or discredit anything that anybody's gone through. Because it's hard. Everybody takes different times to process things, right? It takes them certain amount of years, weeks, months before they're able to fully process and heal from them. And unfortunately, so many people don't. And so that's, that's my main objective here. And I think all too often you hear people that come and share their stories off, I can just help one person. To be honest with you, think that's shit, I don't want to just help one person. I want to help so many frickin people, you know, um, and so that's why I continue doing this because again, I know there's so many people, men and women alike. And I was just born into this on one side of my family's alcoholics and on the other side, the sexual abuse. I didn't choose that, right? But here I am nonetheless, and I get to be the one that ends it and my kids then don't have to be the experiences of the things that I went through, you know, and that to me is, I mean, what more do I want in my life? Sure, there's some things that I want, but I just want to make sure that my kids are safe from those things. And I know that if I was drunk all the time, I wouldn't be able to see things the way the people around me weren't seeing them, right? And I don't, that's not my information to share. But I know again that if I'm clouded mentally, there's going to be potentially some signs at some point. And maybe there won't be. Maybe my kids will, will be scotch-free. Who knows what they'll experience at school and within the locker rooms and everything. I don't know, but I know that if I can't see clearly in my mind that I'll never be able to tell the science so that I can potentially stop those things from happening. And so that's why I've made a value even before I stop drinking is that I would never drink in front of my kids because I experienced that, right? And I don't want that to be the example that I provide for my kids. So I put an end to that and then I've stopped drinking completely now. So, and again, I'm not saying everybody has to do that, I'm just sharing more about just where I'm at in my life. Well, Vax, you say it all the time, man, things are caught, not taught, right? And the way that you live is so much powerful than anything that you can say. And as a parent, Vax, you're soon to be a parent, I'm a new parent. Like, God, I think about that all the time. I think about that all the time, and it might not be drinking. It could be, I'm addicted to work. I'm always in front of my computer or I'm always on my phone or I'm dismissive to when my kids are coming up and asking me to do things in the backyard or whatever it may be. It's the way that you live and with the way that you're living right now and the positive value that you're providing to so many people, maybe your kids don't know it yet. But at some point, you're going to leave some sort of legacy. You, me, Vax, all of us, we're all going to leave some sort of legacy out there. And I think about that all the time, man, what are my kids going to think of me? Is anything really else matter outside of what my wife, my immediate family and my kids think of me? And but like you go back to it, like in the world that we live in, like that's not an easy thing to think. So many times we judge ourselves based upon the opinions of others who have no idea who we are and what we've been through. Vax, you just talked about it, like you were in the locker room with noots almost every day in the summers and you never know what people are going through. And so who are we to judge anybody? Because we don't know anybody's stories. The only people we really know their stories is the people who are closest to us. And so yeah, man, like you having that forethought and that intention to really leave that lasting impression on your kids so they can lead a healthy life. That's one of the most admirable things I think that any of us could do is to really lead the life that we want to live and have that by osmosis, just kind of make the generation behind us better, which will make everybody better. You know, I think it's awesome, dude. So cool. Yeah, thanks. And I think such a big thing too is I know what I lacked as well as the child, not just, you know, in those formidable years, but even in my teenagers, I lacked a positive male role model. Somebody asked me this question like two years ago, can you can you list or can you count one hand or two hands, the amount of positive male role models you had in your life growing up? And guys, it's unfortunate. I don't I didn't have one. So I didn't know how to be a man. I didn't know how to be a good husband, right? A good partner. I didn't know how to go and work hard, right? And so that's what I think about with my kids. And I'm not doing all the right things, but I do believe I am that positive male role model for them. And I think there's so much dysfunction within the world and I think that is at the basis of it. And yes, we need women on doubtily, we need women, but we need more positive male role models. And we can't have that because so many are so suppressed and they view working on themselves as weakness. But I assure you that there is nothing more challenging than facing yourself. It is true strength, giving yourself permission to cry. I've done a lot of it. And just finally that that final approval from myself to just let it out, man, how much lighter I feel. It's unbelievable every single time I give myself permission to just do it, whether I'm in front of somebody or I'm by myself. I always come out of that feeling emotionally lighter and then you're less reactive. Can you talk about how you do that? Because I do think that that is something important for particularly a lot of men, but everybody honestly to hear you talk about giving yourself permission to just kind of feel the feelings. So, you know, it's interesting. Yeah, go ahead. Earlier we were talking about breathing, right? I love breathing. I know how important it is. But every time I get close to almost crying, it's almost like a natural instinct to take a deep breath. And what actually happens is the tears like find a way to go away. So instead of taking the breath, I just again, I close my eyes and I just affirm, give myself permission to release this because all it is is energy. It's just coming in the form of tears that energy is stuck somewhere within my body and it's coming out. And I just need to let it out fully. And again, it's so simple. I give myself permission to release this, release what isn't mine to carry because so much of the pain that I have stuck in my body somewhere isn't mine. The abuse that was done to me, that's not my pain, but it's in me. So therefore it's my responsibility to release it. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting you say that too, because, I mean, shit, I don't know, I've told many people this, but like, hey, why not just tell thousands of people on a podcast? But like, like, this discussion, like, so I had a panic attack a couple of years ago. I think anyway, I wasn't diagnosed or whatever, but like legit, I'm sitting in a car with my wife, we're on our way in to go have dinner together. And I was under self-imposed a lot of pressure because when you're a high achiever, you want to be perfect and whatever. And I legit like kind of froze, like legit kind of froze. And like, then it all just came out. And as I was kind of going through that panic attack and like, I was heavy breathing and like, it was just this really kind of crazy feeling, honestly, like halfway through it. I let my, I gave myself permission to feel it. And it all just came out, man, it all just came out and at one of like the darkest moments of my life, like where I didn't have control, like physically of my body because of what I was going through, like, something in me clicked. And I think it was probably just looking at my wife and loving her and being like, I can't do this anymore, like, it, I just gave myself permission to, to let it all out. And I sat there and like fricking ball my eyes out for like 20 fricking minutes. And then after that, it was like a weight, like the biggest weight off my shoulder. And it was honestly probably just hearing you talk and thinking about it as nothing else than just like that permission, you know, like, hey, you don't have to be the strongest person in the world all day, every day, you know, you don't have to, you know, be perfect at all these things that you're doing. Give yourself a little bit of grace and just let it go, man, just like, just let it go. And yeah, like when we, we do, when we give ourselves permission to just be, and this kind of ties it all back to what we talked about at the beginning and the power of just sitting in stillness and the power of being in the present moment and just letting it flow almost and just being, that's a huge part of the healing process. Absolutely. Vex, you got some brother, I don't even know if I've told you that, Vex, like, you have it. Maybe I think M might be might be the only person that knows this, but now the whole world does so. Now thousands of other people could for you, but sharing, you're letting the energy out and even listening, but you know, as you're saying that too, man, I had a player a few years ago who, like, I know exactly what you guys are talking about. I've never been in that situation, like, emotional emotionally or like, it's that pent up, like, but this guy, he would call me and like, he would meet me wherever I was and he would just like, as soon as he'd see me, like, I've never seen anyone cry like this in my whole life, in my whole life and he would just like, fall on me and like, give me a hug and he's like, I'm so sorry, he would just like, ball his eyes out and he was going through all this inner turmoil and some relationship stuff and man, like, I was just, that's something I'll never forget for the rest of my life and anxiety and all these things, but he's like, bottling things up and not letting them out and they would come out and I was like, the only person that like, he felt comfortable, you know, letting it out in front of and it's just so, so powerful, like, you have to give it like you're saying, you have to give yourself permission to do that because keeping it inside you, it's just like, it's so toxic and so bad, you got to get that out of you. Well, I think the other thing too, and you mentioned that like, you were the dude to go to when he was feeling in that situation, like, I think everybody else has to understand that like, we have to create environments in spaces where that's okay and again, going back to us growing up in the 90s and early 2000s, like, that was not okay, it was not okay to share your feelings, it was not okay to feel the feels, it was just like, you know, forget about it, do your job, you know, and so like creating environments where people can feel like they can bring the best and worst versions of themselves almost, where they have a safe space to just be authentically them, you know, that's like the greatest, the greatest environment that you can create as a leader is creating a space where people just feel like they can be themselves, wherever that is. And I commend you, Vex, for doing that and being that guy for that person because you never know, like, I don't know who this person is, I'm just going to say that maybe it was a guy that you train, had you not created that environment, maybe that person has nobody to go to. Yeah. And if that person has nobody to go to, that shit's getting bottled up. And then there might be a really dark path, you know, that that person's going on. There was, there was. Yeah, we can all be that Vex, you know, we can all be that person for other people just by, you know, living our values and creating that, that open safe space for people to really feel like they can't be themselves, that takes a lot of work, but that also takes living it too, right? Like, it's, it's caught not taught and so by, like, by you being vulnerable as a leader, you know, you're, you're allowing other people to be vulnerable too. And that is a big part of being the best version of yourself. Wow. I told you guys this would be a good episode. I said that one minute in. And what, and what an honor it is to be that person too, you know, like, you were given so much there, Vex, but through the giving that you received so much there, because again, we don't know where that guy would have gone have had you not been there, you know, and I, and I think that just, it's incredible. And I know you put yourself out there too. I mean, on the, the, the podcast that I had hosted four years ago, you came on to talk about your struggles during your concussions. Somebody hearing the, you being vulnerable, it undoubtedly creates that safe space just by itself. Right. That's the guy that's been on a platform and shared a story that I can relate to. And because he did that, I'm going to go to him. Man, that's the juice right there, in my opinion, you know, so yeah, definitely kudos to you for that. There you say that he gave more and because of that, he was more. He got to be more. I had to take that and, you were like past tense there. That's, you know, west from Michigan, two and a half years, right now, we're not all corn on grass. Well, well, let's tie this into, to Jacob, what you're doing now, man, with, with the mental performance and the training and all the stuff that you're doing with kids that are coming up now through the system. Talk a little bit about how you've been able to use some of this stuff to, to really help the next generation of athletes that are coming up and we got the chance to, to, I got the chance to see it firsthand, like in Nashville at the, at the camp that we were at the elite edge camp, by the way, Nashville, what a day yesterday on July 1st with those free agent signings. Hey, why? Why? I texted, I texted walks, Brandon Walker, he, who works with the preds puts this unbelievable camp on that both Jacob and I were at and I texted him, I was like, that was quite the day. Yeah. He was like, Oh, yeah. But you know, you're, you're, you're giving back and you're paying it forward. So tell us a little bit about what you're doing now and, and how, what you've learned through all these trials and tribulations and ups and downs that you've been through has helped you to formulate kind of who you are today and what you're doing. Yeah, for sure. So now it's, you know, it's mental performance and emotional control, primarily for hockey players. I do feel as though that my, my teachings are universal. I could help any athlete across any sports because my work is in helping to, to cultivate the human. And then I think sports will take care of itself. So I guide them into just a healthier relationship with themselves because obviously hockey is a highly physical and highly emotional sports and any player that lacks that emotional control at some point will become a liability to not only himself, but his team. And so I never attached mental health to it because I do feel as though there is some resistance still there. So it's again, it's just mental performance and emotional control, but undoubtedly their mental health will improve. And the basis of my teachings are again, it's that self talk, providing tools on how and when to really work on the reprogramming of the subconscious mind. And so again, that's all your self talk. The inner dialogue that's going on all day long, these two specific tools that I help players with helps to create more positivity in their life and more positive thinking, which is only going to have an impact on their energy levels, their effort levels and therefore their performance on the ice. And then like we were talking about earlier, the breathing is such a massive part, no different than facts. When he first started using it, it came during his career, it came during mine, it came on the bench, on the bench breathing. And so I do a lot of teaching around that. But again, I want players to have a basis on where to start with the breathing instead of trying an advanced thing, which I think can actually lead to some, some difficulties, some not so pleasant things is again, given that basis and then we can expand from there. And then a lot of visualization meditation as well. But then a lot of other things that I provide are perspective shifts. I think all too often with these players are so close to the situation that they can't see it from a clear lens. And so they're seeing it from a lens of not feeling good enough of disturbance of negativity. And when you're there, you can't see that there is a lesson there for you to learn. So sometimes it takes somebody outside that isn't emotionally attached to it to provide you with the keys to unlock yourself and open yourself up to learning those lessons. So yeah, I've been doing that now for the last like six years roughly, but I wasn't always doing it on my own. I'm on my own now created a business called Newton's mind. My slogan is take back your power, because again, I do feel as though so many players are giving up their power to outside sources to things they don't control. We know we can't control those things. So stop blaming, stop complaining, take ownership of the role you've played in your struggles and stop waiting for catastrophe to strike before you start seeking help around the mindset, the mental game. Because as we know, once you get up into those higher levels and even before then, physically everybody is so close, but it's the mindset that is this true separator. Connor McDavid is not 10, 15, 20% better than anybody in the NHL. In truth, it's one, two, three percent, but it's how other players think about him that amplifies it to that 10, 15, 20%. So he's got them beat even before they get on the ice, because all too often we're putting these players up on a pedestal, you're giving them too much respect. But when you do that, you're sending signals to yourself that you're not good enough that you aren't that guy, but in truth, you are stay focused on you. It's a business of one. Take care of you first. That was a lot there. That was awesome, no, it was so true. And like, you know, right around the junior age, you know, midgets, juniors, I feel like especially even we all felt it, you know, but like the internet was like barely a thing, you know, and we were going through it. And now with the advent of my hockey rankings and Twitter and social media and elite prospects and draft boards and yada, yada, yada, and like these kids, they get so focused on exactly what you said. Give their power away. Dude, that was so fun on man. Yeah, I love how, why you described, why you named your company, what you did, because that's what I see every day and the questions I get right around, you know, a month ago to like a month from now with the junior age guys and the guys who are in juniors trying to get a scolly going into their last year, they're just always looking outward. And you know, we all know, because we've been through it like it's such a waste of energy, go inward, make yourself the best you can possibly be mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, with your nutrition, with your recovery, with your training, with your video. If you do all that inside, other stuff's going to take care of itself. You know, it's, that's, I love why you called your company, what you did. That's awesome. Yeah, thanks brother, and to add on to that too, it's what players need to understand is that when they get lost in comparing themselves to these other players that are ranked this and getting drafted here and getting drafted there and signing, you know, the college commitments. That story is going on in your mind. So you're the only one that can possibly suffer from it. And when you get lost in comparing and complaining about why they're getting these opportunities, again, that's negative self-talk that's going on in your mind. And whether you're aware of it or not, your body is paying attention to what's going on to you mentally, mentally. So your energy, your effort, your performance, everything, it has nowhere to go but down. And because they don't know how to do differently, they can't possibly do differently. So they're going to continue to get the same things to complain about, to compare themselves about. And it's just a vicious cycle. But we can get out of that. There is a way you just need proper guidance. So true, I love what you said there about giving your power away. Like that's such a unique perspective on this comparative culture, you know, thing that so many kids nowadays are really, really, really struggling with. Take your power back, man. And the only way you can take your power back is on focusing on the things that you can control. Don't give your power to what other people think of you, because it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. We talked about it really. Things that really matter, people that are closest to you. And yeah, that's such an awesome way. Where did you, like, you know, there's a lot that goes to your journey and taking the power back, I'm sure. But like when you talk about that with some of these youth athletes, because one of the questions that I had for you, we went in a lot of different ways today, but like, what are the biggest issues that you're seeing with some of these younger athletes that you are working with? What are some of the parents coming to you saying, Hey, my kid is struggling with X, Y, or Z, you know, does a lot of it have to do with that, you know, giving the power away to other people? Or like, what are some of the other things that that you're seeing with the youth of today? Yeah, it's certainly that it's obviously in social media and, you know, people not understanding that it's in a lot of ways. I know there's a lot of good out there, but it's a lot of it's just a highlight reel. A lot of what's out there isn't what's true in those people's lives, you know. But we see the glory on there and we compare ourselves to that, right? But outside of that, I know confidence. Confidence is always one that comes up and Vex, I know you share this thought too, that in order to have true confidence, you got to be truly preparing as well. You can't fake your preparation just like you can't fake confidence. But I think right now, so many players are so narrowly focused on confidence and how to get it and maintain it. They're narrowly focused and it's typically just on points, the assists and the goals. Not understanding that there's so many other areas that you can pull confidence from, but you're just not because the points don't show up on elite prospects, or excuse me, only the points show up on elite prospects, but winning your one-on-one battles doesn't show up on there, but man, the game is a game of one-on-one battles. You win more of those chances or you're giving your team a better chance of winning, playing physical, blocking shots, winning face-offs, playing on the PK. All these different areas, being a good teammate on the bench in the locker room. These are all areas of confidence that nobody is viewing, they're just focused on the one thing that they think is going to get them to the next level. And then another thing, so many players don't really know who they are as players. They all want to be the dangler because, again, that's what they see on Instagram. And I'm not saying you don't work on your hands, but understand that you must be willing to expand the way you see yourself. Not everybody is going to be the point producer at every single level. And I learned that firsthand. I was that guy until I got to the NHL. And then I was asked to assume a different role. And I was so resistant to that. What do you mean? I've been an offensive defense man all the way. I'm going to stay true to that. What do you mean? I'm open. Hit me. Exactly. But I did an understanding that I owe all of these skills that I had to work on. I can go and work on another skill and put the same intention into it and learn it. That's going to give you sustainable success and that's going to allow you to have a career at the levels you want to get to. And I did, again, I just didn't know that back then. So these players stay off social media the best as you can or pay attention to what you're consuming and make sure it's working for you and helping you, not hurting you. Second, widen what you are pulling confidence from. And then third, be willing to expand the way you see yourself. I think those three are powerhouses and having more success. I really like that. And I think Vex, your number two, yeah, the widen where you're pulling confidence from. Even as you were talking there, newts, I'm thinking about being a player again and how good I felt in practice, winning a one-on-one battle in a battle drill. And the absolute feeling of peer bliss, I frickin' earned that. I outcompeted you. Or it could be something like, hey, I worked my ass off and maybe coach doesn't give a lot of compliments, but I worked my ass off all year. And that two or three times a year where he came up to me and was like, hey, man, really appreciate the way that you're working. Or I've been working on my defensive game and coach puts me out on a five-on-six situation at the end of the game. Those are all ways that we could be feeling. You talk about widening. I would encourage all kids, all players, to think about that. Think about some of the other avenues that are a little bit more in your control that you can get that from. It's not just like, yeah, and it is so funny. I use this analogy all the time. You could go on a 10-game goal of streak and you're playing like crap, but all of a sudden you get to the front of the net and the puck goes off your ass and goes in the net and all of a sudden you find your confidence again. That is a way, but that is such a short term, and we've all been there. I've been there. It's such like a short-term confidence spike, but that goes down really quick. The best kind of confidence are these ones that you're talking about, and I think you made Vex write something down. Dude, this is a monumental, like he doesn't do this very often. I'm barely reading it right. It's very often, so I'm writing something down, so you know that it's good. I absolutely love that, and that's something that, looking back at my career, and I tell guys all the time, I had Tyler Elbrecht in the gym last week. He was running a lesson out on the rink in my gym. I could see the rink, and so I saw he was out there. He's a guy who played Minnesota State man, Cato, was the captain there. He played eight years pro, maybe all in the coast, maybe a couple of games in the A, six four, rail thin, fought, had to fight a lot, got beat up a lot, fought some really tough guys, but like I told the guys, because anytime I see former guys who played high levels or my guys, I make them talk to my young guys, A, to make those guys better speakers, and B, so that they can teach the young kids what's actually important, like this type of stuff, and I'm like, you know, this guy had less skill than I did, but that's why you need to listen to him, because he played eight years pro, and was the captain of a D1 team, and he had less skill than me, those are the guys you need to listen to because they found a way to do exactly what you're saying, find confidence in other areas than the sexy stat sheet, you know, and it's, it's, I look back in my career, and what Toph said, winning battles in practice, I took so and I always talk about my own self, because I know what I did and how it helped me as a guy who, you know, wasn't wasn't as skilled as you guys, and like winning battles in practice is literally one of the main reasons I played as long as I did, because that's what gave me confidence. I looked at that as a game, as a real game, like winning that is just as important as me scoring in practice, and that is where I gained all my confidence from from the gym and from practice, and whatever happened in the game was like icing on the cake, and that that that saying is so, you know, you go to eat something with your, with your team, everybody's eating like garbage, you make the right decision. Remind yourself of that, everybody else ate fries, I ate vegetables today, boom, instant confident boost if you look at it that way, you know what I mean? Everybody drank beers tonight after the game, I didn't drink any, I went home, I slept, I feel great, I know that I'm in a better spot mentally, physically, emotionally play this game today, and playing those thoughts in your head, guys, this is how you can separate yourself by just already doing what you're doing, it's what was it, why didn't why didn't where you pull conference from, why didn't are broadened, broadened what you pull confidence from, in fact, I just want to add on to this man, because I was the stat sheet guy until I realized I got to be more than that, and there's so many stat sheet guys out there that in practice, look at guys like you and like oh, Terry Tryhard, all the time, always got his cave on, man, we got to step outside of that crap, because you work, go ahead, go ahead, but for me, I was always laughing at them because I was like, this is how I beat you, you're better than me, you think I'm a nerd because I try hard, let's go man, long enough timeline, I'm freaking catching up to you, there is literally nothing worse in a locker room or on the ice than a guy who's calling people Terry, I've never heard of Terry Tryhard, like those people are legitimately cancers in locker rooms and miserable to be around, and I would be hard pressed to believe that any team has ever won with a guy like that in the locker room, ever, because they just bring everybody down to their level, because they want to be the best, they want to be the hardest worker, they're not going to put in, they're not taught, right, so like they're not going to put in the work, so they're going to try to bring everybody down to their level, so they can look good, and that's why you lose, so that's why that's kind of like the genesis of cancers in a locker room, they bring everybody down to their negative shit level, and then everybody's not performing individually or as a team to the standard that they need to be at to be able to win, and so it's just this like vicious circle of just negativity and it's all caused, that's why recruiting is so goddamn important, all it takes is one, all it takes is one of those people to ruin it for everybody else, and I don't know about you guys, but I've been in locker rooms where there has been a person like that, and that team has always underperformed, always underperformed every single time, and when there wasn't a person like that in the locker room, typically your team is going to overperform, and that's where you can do some pretty special things. Absolutely, and again going to Vex, what you said there, your practices were like games, so how frickin prepared were you for the games? How much easier was it for you to notch up to that 100%, 95 to 100%, because you were doing it consistently, so you went into those games with confidence, and that's what so many of these players that are harsh on guys like that, because they're going out there and practice doing 50, 60%, who are you to think that you're going to be able to notch it up, come game time, uh-uh, you might be able to, but it will be very inconsistent, and what do us as decision makers not want, we do not want inconsistency. Did you ever play with any guys at the higher levels that could not, well I guess the pros is different, especially HL and HL, because you play so much, but now they just practice less, but when you're playing, especially if you're a rookie and you play to three and three, you don't get money off, you got a skate, you got a pre-game skate, so there is a little bit of that, but did you, I rarely played with guys who like consistently wouldn't try hard and practice that were successful in games, like I know, very, very, very, even at the pro level where guys just had like skill that was like touched by God, it's like how did you do what you just did, but like they never reached their full potential ever, none of them. No, and they get found out very quickly, man, they get found out because those are the guys that can still be on the power play and put in some wishy, washy effort, and they're going to show up on the stat sheet, but again, these decision makers, especially where the game's at now, and they're seeing straight through that stuff. They want good teammates, they want guys that are in control, that are in control of their body language and all, and again, there's so many other areas that players don't even understand that decisions are being made, you know, but no, I just don't think it's possible to have consistent success at any level. If you're that guy that is consistently going 40, 50% in practice, anything in the world, probably. Yeah. And also to flip it the other way, like, and I'll talk about from my experience as a former D1 coach whose job was recruiting for a long time, I can't tell you like how many vexes of the world who, you know, kids were 15, 16 years old and they weren't the best players, but then the, you know, their teammates who were playing on the power play at that point, but were that guy, they got passed every time, every time, every single time, you know, like, and so again, as a college coach, like who are you going to put your chips on the table for? You're going to put your chips on the table, somebody that doesn't work hard, and when you don't work hard, you're not going to improve. So as you go up to every level, like there's a ceiling on you, or you're going to put your chips on the table and make a bet on a kid who you know, and again, I say this all the time, the best recruits in college hockey are not the freshmen. The best recruits in college hockey is how much better are you sophomore year than your freshman year? And then your junior year to your sophomore and your senior year to your junior year. Like if you have a kid who's at 90% talent, but work ethic isn't great, you're going to have that same kid from his freshman year to his senior year. That's not a good recruit. Even if he's okay as a player, eventually he's going to get passed and he's going to be a fourth liner by the time he gets his senior year, or probably honestly out of the lineup because he's not useless, like unless he's putting points on the board, he's useless because he doesn't backjack. He doesn't work. He can't play in different situations. Then you have these other kids who will put in and are willing to do the work, they're going to get better and they're going to pass that person at some point. Those are the people that coaches like to bet on, like you said, nudes, like and so for all the kids, because they're, I don't know if you guys hear this, but I get this a lot of like, like I'm not, I'm not where I need to be right now at 15 or 16 or whatever. But like, that's okay. That's okay. Just continue to focus on yourself and the things that you can control and, and, and you will, I promise you, you will pass people who are ahead of you who do not have the drive that you have. I promise you, Andrew Albert's, we just had him on the podcast last week, 15, he's playing B hockey in Minnesota. Somebody believes in him. He plays 450 fricking games in the NHL. Stop telling me and stop with the social media stuff when all these stupid rankings at 13, 14, 15 years old and people putting all this stock into these people. Because if you did a rankings, maybe that's what I should do dude. Maybe I should do a ranking of people who were 15 years old and looking at that and then where they were ranked at 20 and see how different those fricking rankings are. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have some of the people that are at the top, but usually those people who are at the top are the people who were working at 15. They were blessed by God with talent, but they also worked. Those are the people that stay at the top and the people who were blessed by God with talent at 15 who didn't work, they're way down the list. It's insane. I got this kid in the gym right now. This is third year with me and two years ago, he was the smallest guy in the gym, like Hannah gone through puberty at all when other guys were starting rail thin. But his work ethic was like literally like top three in my whole company out of, you know, so many players that I work with. And I was just like, dude, I know this is really like a barely do a push up two years ago. I'm like, dude, I know this is really hard, but how hard you're working, I literally, I promise you, I promise you, if you keep doing this, you're going places. And that whole summer, the whole next year, now two years later, central district, he was ranked in St. Louis, the number one D man coming out of St. Louis. Whereas two years ago, he was the sixth D man on his triple A team. And in two years, you know, from 14 to 16 or 13 to 15, boom, and it's like, I remember I could see the kids, you know, making fun of him for working hard and practicing stuff like that. And I was like, dude, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, and he's not even in juniors yet. Like, I gear like, he reminds me of Joseph Wall. He's a defensement, but I'm like, this kid's going to give himself a chance to play pro hockey. I'm already saying, I'm not telling anybody, like I say his name, but like the drive that I see out of this kid. And it's so obvious to us when we're done, you know, so kids listening to this, put your head down and grind, widen your scope of things you're pulling from confidence from and keep getting better at an array of different things. Don't just worry about the statute. And it was something to add there to, I think, all too often in today's society with all of the information out there, people are constantly looking for more things to do, more things to do before you do that, examine what it is you're currently doing. And is that being done at a level that is high enough to even warrant adding something? Because why would we add something to do just do 50% again? If you're not operating at your highest level, stop adding. Take away until you can get yourself to that hundred percent. That's man. So many now gets at this one. I hope you guys rewind. Take notes of the whole show. Also, what is it, Missy Allen, flip your thing round and reverse it. You were about 40% correct there, but we'll go. What's the line? What's the line? I think down, flip it in reverse. There you go. Okay. You said something about a thing. I don't know what you're talking about. I'll take it easy. All right. My bad. My bad. Well, dude, this was awesome. This was a really powerful episode, and this is going to go a long way with our listeners stuff. And thank you so much for your vulnerable vulnerability and sharing your story and sharing your success too. There were some tough moments for sure to say the very least, but we said it before, man. The fact that you were able to take some of that really, really deep, dark stuff and now be able to help people, it's awesome. Keep doing what you're doing, dude. Keep crushing, bro. Keep crushing it. Thank you, gentlemen. Yeah. It's been one heck of a journey. Again, thank you guys so much for allowing me to come on and continue sharing. Again, I know there's a lot of people out there will resonate with a lot of the things that we talked about here today. But again, to go from a small little desert town, rank the fourth worst in the whole state of California to playing 10 years pro, signing an NHL contract, playing seven years over in Europe, which I'm very, very grateful for. My son, Nash, I know your dog's name is Nash. He was born over in Finland, and that's just so awesome that my kids got to be over in Europe with me and experience that. And yeah, I mean, again, thank you guys so much. Love you both. And for everybody listening, thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to listen to this. And I hope that you found some things in here that can benefit you. Absolutely. Well, we're going to keep you for a couple more minutes if that's OK with all of our with all of our guests that we have on, we do a 10 questions rapid fire that gets housed in our hockey think tank community, a little bit of an added bonus for for the people that are in that community with us. And so we're going to keep you there. But yeah, dude, this was awesome. Thank you so much, and it's going to affect a lot of people. (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]
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