Shelly Zellman joined me to talk about being influenced by The Mary Tyler Moore Show; writing for Donny & Marie; James at 16; Baby I'm Back; Barney Miller; the episode "The Harris Incident"; Jack Soo; When the Whistle Blows; Semi-Tough; It's a Living; Three's Company; John Ritter; Don Knotts; Nichols, Ross, & West; Jeffrey Tambor; Charles in Charge; Eisenhower & Lutz; FM' Allan Burns; Newhart; Ann Jillian Show; Dear John; William Sanderson's good luck charm; Bob Newhart & John Ritter; Don Rickles