Mark joined me to discuss Al Franken; growing up in Buffalo; moving to LA; quitting his day job; his stand up material; meeting Dennis Miller; how finding your voice is difficult when you're writing for someone else; getting The Dennis Miller Show; Bob Odenkirk; Mum & Shanz; Herb Sargent; being brought on to The Chevy Chase Show; Chevy farts on FOX execs; performing in front of 12 people including Richard Lewis & Albert Brooks;his SNL showcase; his parents take on his material; screwing with Adam Sandler right before he was to go on; helping Will Forte out of his contract to go to SNL; Robert Smigel; David Letterman; meeting Bonnie & Terry Turner; getting hired for 3rd Rock; creating Mr. Rhodes and  having to stay there; how TV portrays teacher; tech schools; demographics should not supercede poverty; old textbooks; racism in the US; the Royal Family; Bernie Sanders; casting Topher Grace; casting Mila Kunis; guest stars Betty White, Tom Poston, Charo, Tanya Roberts and the one that got away; chickening out on meeting Aerosmith; having to write George Harrison''s acceptance speech with him; Chris farley; Eric, Donna & Hyde triangle he hated; trying to "Urkel" Fez; women in America; his mom suffers discrimination; cancel culture; The Birth of A Nation vs. Birth of a Nation; Betsy DeVos; the old Republicans; Bill Clinton becomes corporatist; the Capitol defecation; Republican swingers; humiliation is funny; my favorite scene from That 70's Show; lasting friendships; what he watches now; sports; The Simpsons; being held accountable for what you did as a teenager; forgiveness; Kevin Spacey; cancelling Dancing with the Stars;  Lab Rats; Grateful Dead jokes; Drake Sather; meeting and working for your heroes