Entertainer, comedian, and podcaster Mark Malkoff joined me to talk his early influences; Norm Macdonald; Andy Kaufman; our fanaticism for Saturday Night Live; being in the audience for Letterman and Conan; Don Novello; Carl Reiner; Mel Brooks; Biff Henderson; working for the Late Show with David Letterman; Donick Cary; the trials of being head writer; Rich Hall; guests he's still working on; Dyan Cannon and Angie Dickinson; how he does a family friendly podcast; the work that goes into his show; being ghosted by a guest; how you never know why a guest can't make it, the "Will Ferrell curse"; Loni Anderson; how mistakes aren't aired anymore; Isabella Rossellini; Daljit Dhaliwal; K-Marr the Discount Magician; Otero; how Letterman hit the ground running; Carson guests who were never asked back; Carson v. Letterman guests; Letterman doing the show for himself vs. Leno doing it for NBC; guest hosts; Johnny's legacy; trial by fire of hosting a podcast